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Why does it seem most don't like it, is it because it kills with boring authority in a huge range of bullet weights?
30/06 ?
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I'm a fan but mine stems from the fact that it is what I have always shot. When I was 12, my options were 30-06 or don't hunt. I opted for the 06. Still have that Rem 760 with steel butt plate to this day. I agree it is boring but it has never let me down on anything I have shot.
knightrider":1mc7jbj6 said:
just my opinion but a combination of the recoil and if you are in the 30-50 range there was a time that if you didnt have one you were doing it wrong which turned a lot of people off just for that reason. I mean it was the 6.5 creedmore for a long time before the 6.5 creedmore.
Honestly, I've not heard many knowledgeable or experienced hunters actually say they hate it, or that it's a bad choice. Like a lot of things that are readily available and just flat out work well, my opinion is that people get bored with it because just about everybody has one.
I think that short action cartridge popularity and trendy new offerings shade it just a little. I find that as much as I think of the '06, I lean more toward short action rounds myself.
When something tends to be the yardstick everything else is measured by, it has a tendency to be busted in the chops by those looking to promote their favorites. All JMO.
I think that short action cartridge popularity and trendy new offerings shade it just a little. I find that as much as I think of the '06, I lean more toward short action rounds myself.
When something tends to be the yardstick everything else is measured by, it has a tendency to be busted in the chops by those looking to promote their favorites. All JMO.
I love the 30-06. It will do everything that any other caliber can do, even most magnums, incredibly well. Wide range of bullet options, and can be used confidently on all North American game without hesitation, with possible exception of grizzlies. Recoil is really tolerable, and trajectory is far better than most realize, and far flatter to most ranges than people should attempt to shoot. Economical and effective, but some people just don't like it due to reasons not tied to sound logic
Matador
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This x2. Couldnt have said it any better.EastTNHunter":2sdrkwr2 said:
Matador":1j33skzz said:
Yep. I really enjoy working up loads for the 06. It's my goto deer rifle and has been for over 100 years. Well, maybe not quite that long. :mrgreen:
I just had the old 760 out the other day verifying zero. I have her shooting 150 hr accubonds at about 2900 FPS. This gun just never goes off zero and this bullet will be bad medicine for deer this year.
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Matador":1zoqp9mu said:
I agree. If a grown man is that recoil sensitive, maybe he should give up hunting with a rifle. The 30 cal was around long before the metric calibers and will likely out live them.
If you dislike something just because others say you should use it, I liken that to disliking the opposite sex just because someone says you should like them. More for the rest of us free thinkers.
Leave it to the US military to design a bullet and cartridge to kill. Owe my life to the Garand and this round as my Dad was in WWII.
Orion6
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I think it's still the best all-around caliber out there. Not necessarily the best for any one specific application, but great at a variety of applications. Other calibers can do the same things in many cases, but the '06 can go light to heavy. I'd hunt elk or moose with an '06 and never blink an eye.
My favorite deer caliber is .308, but the '06 has that extra powder capacity and can go on up to 220 grain bullets for bigger game with still respectable velocities.
If I could only pick one caliber to hunt with, it would be .30/06.
My favorite deer caliber is .308, but the '06 has that extra powder capacity and can go on up to 220 grain bullets for bigger game with still respectable velocities.
If I could only pick one caliber to hunt with, it would be .30/06.
" If a grown man is that recoil sensitive, maybe he should give up hunting with a rifle"
that may be the dumbest thing I have read on here today and thats saying something until I read the opposite sex analogy which makes zero sense and is in no way close to the same thing.
that may be the dumbest thing I have read on here today and thats saying something until I read the opposite sex analogy which makes zero sense and is in no way close to the same thing.
People just want something different and cool. I understand that. However, the 30-06 is one of the best calibers ever created. Period. I don't really care what anyone else thinks. I use one and like it.
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REN":39f7b8sy said:
Get over it Ren. You must be a very shallow-minded recoil sensitive individual who would be better off with a air rifle.
jlanecr500":oh4v2wuh said:
hahah yeah you got me. I never said I didnt like the 3006, personally I think its a great round even if I dont own one. But to say you are a sissy if you think it recoils to much reenforces my original comment on why some people dont care for it.
Hunter 257W
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The 30-06 is one of the best all around cartridges we have. It will do it all for anything but dangerous game. Ammo is available and cheap. Guns are easy to find and anything suitable for the cartridge length and pressure is chambered for it. You could buy a 30-06 and never own another rifle for life and be lacking for nothing compared to your hunting buddies with their racks of rifles. GASP!?!?! MAybe that last statement is the main reason I've never had interest in owning a 30-06. Who want's just one rifle? I prefer to justify all my many rifles by creating very specific tasks that need a very specific rifle/cartridge to fulfill. That way I can almost believe it myself when I say I "Need" another rifle! 
Another factor with my not wanting a 30-06 is the fact that varmint cartridges were what really got me into shooting rifles. I love small fast bullets, flat trajectories and low recoil. True the 30-06 is not known to be a hard kicking rifle but it does recoil more than many shooters really enjoy. I figure, why take more punishment than is necessary for the job? It's cousins the 25-06, 270 Winchester and 280 Remington will all kill deer just as dead with less kick. And 25-06 simply sounds sexier than 30-06 to me.
When it comes to recoil, if I'm gonna get kicked I want something that offers way more performance in return for the punishment like my 460 Weatherby. 2,900 ft/sec 300 grain loads (original Barnes bullet) don't hurt at all but they give a real manly shove that instills confidence that you have something capable of doing the job. :mrgreen:
Another factor with my not wanting a 30-06 is the fact that varmint cartridges were what really got me into shooting rifles. I love small fast bullets, flat trajectories and low recoil. True the 30-06 is not known to be a hard kicking rifle but it does recoil more than many shooters really enjoy. I figure, why take more punishment than is necessary for the job? It's cousins the 25-06, 270 Winchester and 280 Remington will all kill deer just as dead with less kick. And 25-06 simply sounds sexier than 30-06 to me.
When it comes to recoil, if I'm gonna get kicked I want something that offers way more performance in return for the punishment like my 460 Weatherby. 2,900 ft/sec 300 grain loads (original Barnes bullet) don't hurt at all but they give a real manly shove that instills confidence that you have something capable of doing the job. :mrgreen:
1 good shot
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I got my first 30-06 in 1975 and it was the only rifle I hunted with for 30 years. I just wanted to try something different
Hunter 257W":3pdvy03u said:The 30-06 is one of the best all around cartridges we have. It will do it all for anything but dangerous game. Ammo is available and cheap. Guns are easy to find and anything suitable for the cartridge length and pressure is chambered for it. You could buy a 30-06 and never own another rifle for life and be lacking for nothing compared to your hunting buddies with their racks of rifles. GASP!?!?! MAybe that last statement is the main reason I've never had interest in owning a 30-06. Who want's just one rifle? I prefer to justify all my many rifles by creating very specific tasks that need a very specific rifle/cartridge to fulfill. That way I can almost believe it myself when I say I "Need" another rifle!
Another factor with my not wanting a 30-06 is the fact that varmint cartridges were what really got me into shooting rifles. I love small fast bullets, flat trajectories and low recoil. True the 30-06 is not known to be a hard kicking rifle but it does recoil more than many shooters really enjoy. I figure, why take more punishment than is necessary for the job? It's cousins the 25-06, 270 Winchester and 280 Remington will all kill deer just as dead with less kick. And 25-06 simply sounds sexier than 30-06 to me.
When it comes to recoil, if I'm gonna get kicked I want something that offers way more performance in return for the punishment like my 460 Weatherby. 2,900 ft/sec 300 grain loads (original Barnes bullet) don't hurt at all but they give a real manly shove that instills confidence that you have something capable of doing the job. :mrgreen:
I have 3 very different rifles, all setup differently. The calibers of these 3 rifles:
30-06
30-06
30-06
I also own several different caliber rifles, but always gravitate back towards the old warhorse.
DaveB
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It's the one I simply keep going back to. From magnums to SA, I cant find anything wrong with it. IMO recoil is strictly up to the gun. You could shoulder and shoot my sub 6 lb 06 and never guess that's what the recoil came from. Sure others have pros but I havent found one with enough to outweigh this round.
All things given, I graduated from a 30-30 to a 30-06. Its always had a place or two in my safe...
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All things given, I graduated from a 30-30 to a 30-06. Its always had a place or two in my safe...
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Urban_Hunter
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Basically because it's the dumbest caliber ever. There's nothing it can do that the 308 can't do better. That is unless you want to shoot 220gr rainbows that would be much better suited to the 300 win mag. If you want accuracy and less recoil: 308. If you want speed and weight: magnum. If you think this is a serious post: 6.5 creed FTW!!!
GOODWIN
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I'll always have one in the safe ready to go.
It just works.
It just works.
jlanecr500":2sc0u4z1 said:
Ease up a little bit rookie. That attitude doesn't float around here.
How can you call him shallow minded for defending someone who doesn't like recoil? Your comments are just ignorant.
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TNReb":2oqka8kw said:
Obviously, you know little about hand loading, as the 30-06 can be loaded with anything from a 125gr bullet up into the 200's. Light loads kick no harder than smaller calibers.
I have re-read Ren's posts and do not see where he was defending anyone.
Perhaps you should alert Ruger of my rookie attitude so that he can call me out on it as it is above your pay grade. You should take the same advise and get over it...
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Urban_Hunter":2d6wu7k6 said:
Unless ur wanting to shoot heavy game like bear or elk . Then the 06 starts to shine .
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jlanecr500":2rlrjr5o said:
Nobody was talking about hand loading. It wasn't mentioned a single time. I certainly understand that you can load a .30-06 with a lighter load - but YOU'RE the one who says a person shouldn't be worried about recoil. So now you're contradicting your own point to save face?
You said "If a grown man is that recoil sensitive, maybe he should give up hunting with a rifle."
Ren said that was dumb.
I still agree.
REN isn't one of those people who is recoil sensitive. Neither am I.
However, you don't know what someone's situation is or why they might not like recoil. Should a 70 year old man give up hunting with a rifle because he doesn't like recoil? According to your comments, yes.
No reason to call Ruger. You can have whatever attitude you want - it's not against the rules. You just aren't going to make many friends around here talking like that.
PillsburyDoughboy
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Gotta love my dog is better than ur dog conversations . Especially when it comes to cartridges .
Match the cartridge to anticipated game you will be hunting . Match the bullet is as important if not more important IMHO . You can hunt Elk with success with a 25-06 but if select a bullet with a thin jacket ur setting itself up for failure .
Likewise if your hinting whitetail with a 45/70 with solid bullets designed for dangerous game ur likely not going to like the results .
Short action smaller cartridges lend themselves better to spotter weight lighter weight or featherweight hunting rifles where long actions and magnums lend themselves better to sporting rifles and higher due to recoils management . Stock design and quality / muzzle breaks and all can change the effect of that of course.
06 will always be around . It just works .
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Match the cartridge to anticipated game you will be hunting . Match the bullet is as important if not more important IMHO . You can hunt Elk with success with a 25-06 but if select a bullet with a thin jacket ur setting itself up for failure .
Likewise if your hinting whitetail with a 45/70 with solid bullets designed for dangerous game ur likely not going to like the results .
Short action smaller cartridges lend themselves better to spotter weight lighter weight or featherweight hunting rifles where long actions and magnums lend themselves better to sporting rifles and higher due to recoils management . Stock design and quality / muzzle breaks and all can change the effect of that of course.
06 will always be around . It just works .
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