Food Plots What is this?

[TRIGGER]

What is this? I have clover in there somewhere. Can I get rid of this but keep the clover?

 

[ADR]

Sericea lezbedeza.
At that height, if you didn't bushhog, you could wipe it with roundup. I'm sure there's other ways

 

[tellico4x4]

24DB will kill it & not the clover. You will need to bush hog first then wait a week or so before spraying.

Make sure it is the "B" version.

 

[TNTreeman]

. Maybe just mow it high as you can. Others on here smarter than me may say different .

 

[tug]

What is this? I have clover in there somewhere. Can I get rid of this but keep the clover?
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Join the club. I got behind a couple of years on a place. This is what I had. Mow it. Then start thinking chemicals.

 

[TRIGGER]

Join the club. I got behind a couple of years on a place. This is what I had. Mow it. Then start thinking chemicals.

I sprayed and killed everything growing in may then planted clover a few weeks later and now have this. It is cut now. My first real attempt at a food plot. Learning that I have a lot to learn lol

 

[Popcorn]

Mow it before it goes to seed. Mow it soon and maybe it will begin regrowth. Its easy to kill with 24DB but it will need to be growing and not in seed stage. Like mentioned above 24DB will not harm your clover if mixed as directed. I mix 1 quart per acre.

 

[BSK]

Sericea lespedeza is the bane of Deep South deer management. It will quickly take over any open area. It has some value for quail, but about zero value for deer.

 

[Bucket]

I hate Serecia. Had to quit tilling my West TN plots because there were so many seeds in the soil. Tried various chemicals and a wicking bar, but until I went no-till it kept coming back.

 

[MickThompson]

It's the devil

 

[DoubleRidge]

Everything you read says the root system goes 3 to 4 foot deep.....hate it.

 

[MickThompson]

Sericea lespedeza is the bane of Deep South deer management. It will quickly take over any open area. It has some value for quail, but about zero value for deer.

It's got about zero value for quail too, except that's it's generally associated with open areas

 

[BSK]

It's got about zero value for quail too, except that's it's generally associated with open areas

Ha! There ya go! Truly hate the stuff.

 

[MickThompson]

24DB will kill it & not the clover. You will need to bush hog first then wait a week or so before spraying.

Make sure it is the "B" version.

Will it? That's kind of surprising since sericea is also a legume

 

[tellico4x4]

Will it? That's kind of surprising since sericea is also a legume

You are right, it is a legume. Now I feel like an idiot... I have sericea around the edges of many of my clover plots, but none in the plots themselves. Been this way for years. The only 3 chemicals I spray are Celthodim, 24DB & Basagran & I assumed it was the 24DB that was keeping it out. Yes, I know what happens when you assume! Perhaps it is the Basagran. I obviously need to do a little more investigation. Thanks for pointing this out of to me.

 

[MickThompson]

You are right, it is a legume. Now I feel like an idiot... I have sericea around the edges of many of my clover plots, but none in the plots themselves. Been this way for years. The only 3 chemicals I spray are Celthodim, 24DB & Basagran & I assumed it was the 24DB that was keeping it out. Yes, I know what happens when you assume! Perhaps it is the Basagran. I obviously need to do a little more investigation. Thanks for pointing this out of to me.

I was hoping y'all knew something I didn't. Glad there's a group here that can discuss this kind of stuff

 

[tellico4x4]

I sprayed and killed everything growing in may then planted clover a few weeks later and now have this. It is cut now. My first real attempt at a food plot. Learning that I have a lot to learn lol

Planting clover that late is a crap shoot at best. Much better success in fall or frost seeding Jan/Feb

 

[TRIGGER]

Planting clover that late is a crap shoot at best. Much better success in fall or frost seeding Jan/Feb

Especially with the lack of rain I'm guessing. I'm new at this. After I finished cutting it today I walked it and there is very little clover in there. Looks like I will be trying it again in the fall. When should I re-plant it?

 

[megalomaniac]

Especially with the lack of rain I'm guessing. I'm new at this. After I finished cutting it today I walked it and there is very little clover in there. Looks like I will be trying it again in the fall. When should I re-plant it?

If you are going to replant, consider remedy plus roundup for burndown and elimination of the sereca a couple weeks before planting. I completely eliminated sereca in one of my fallow fields I reclaimed for wildlife plots a couple years ago with that combo

 

[mr.big]

I like to sow clover with wheat in Sept and then mow the wheat down in the spring

 

[JCDEERMAN]

Hate Serecia! Remedy is what I have used and it gets nuked

 

[BSK]

Sericea is the to the Deep South what Fireweed is to the MidSouth. Clear some ground and it is the first plant to fill in. Thankfully, our Fireweed is nowhere near as hard to get rid of as Sericea.

 

[TRIGGER]

If I spray it and kill it it's just going to come back after I disc it back up?

 

[TRIGGER]

Sericea is the to the Deep South what Fireweed is to the MidSouth. Clear some ground and it is the first plant to fill in. Thankfully, our Fireweed is nowhere near as hard to get rid of as Sericea.

This ground has been cleared for a very long time but it has not been tilled in over 30 years at least. Only cut once or twice a year from what the previous owner told me.

 

[backyardtndeer]

Planting clover that late is a crap shoot at best. Much better success in fall or frost seeding Jan/Feb

I have had my best results with planting clovers in the early fall, planting with wintergrazer rye grain.

 

[Popcorn]

If I spray it and kill it it's just going to come back after I disc it back up?

Yep! It is well represented in the seed bank. Spray it, mow it be persistent and you should prevail.

 

[TRIGGER]

@Popcorn @BSK @JCDEERMAN @tellico4x4
Guys will buccaneer 5 extra do the trick? I have a jug of this. I have zero issues with buying more chemicals but if this will work I already have it. Going to spray it tomorrow if it's not raining.

 

[tellico4x4]

I bought some Remedy to use with Gly as Mega suggested. I've only got it around the edges of some plots. Still don't understand why it hasn't spread but gonna try & knock it back before it does

 

[Deer@Dawn]

We have had success spraying 1% Roundup (generic works) on top. Spray light, sometimes it takes 2 sprayings about 1 week apart.

 

[TRIGGER]

We have had success spraying 1% Roundup (generic works) on top. Spray light, sometimes it takes 2 sprayings about 1 week apart.

"Spray light"? Can you elaborate?