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I've searched. So don't hate if it's right in front of my face.

What I want to discuss is the use of water during the deer season.

Is it considered baiting? If so, why?

I'm talking about pure H2O. Nothing else; no additives..
 
Bait is defined as food or feed placed to attract wildlife... I personally wouldn't consider water to be food or feed. Deer get most water through green plants but they will drink too. Are you talking about placing a container of water in the woods or digging a water hole?
 
m411b said:
I've searched. So don't hate if it's right in front of my face.

What I want to discuss is the use of water during the deer season.

Is it considered baiting? If so, why?

I'm talking about pure H2O. Nothing else; no additives..

Not bait unless something is added.
 
I hope they re-look at this bait thing one day. You can plant crops, but you can't put the crop, itself, out. Silly.

If water is ever considered baiting, I hope we'll all stage a coup.
 
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I ask because in some states water specifically put out for deer during deer season is considered baiting deer.

With TN being a very strict state on baiting I figure it was the same. My local GW said he wouldn't write me a ticket for putting troughs out with water in them strictly for deer during the season, or if I killed a deer while it was drinking water out of said troughs.

I have 60 acres that has 3 creeks on it. But they never have water unless a heavy rain comes. The previous owner thought it was a good idea to block the source for all three creeks to create a 50ft x 100ft pond. I have to rent some equipment to undue his ignorance.

So until then water troughs have been put out, and the deer go to them more than they do the feeders.
 
Is the pond dry? I'm confused here.. If the pond ain't dry, they got water. A deer traveling across 60 acres to get water is no distance at all.. I may just be reading all this wrong.

This whole thread is really confusing.... :crazy: Who knows...
 
No, the pond isn't dry. It's at the front of the property by the road. No where near the deer, or where I'll be hunting them.

What's confusing? There's nothing confusing about wanting to know whether TN considers water as bait if it's put out for the deer during the hunting season, and killing a deer over it...
 
Out west, hunting water tanks is better than corn, but their climate is a lot drier... Couldn't hurt. Give it a shot. I've thought about it too, really. May do it
 
Never thought about that out West. Here in Tennessee there's a little water over every ridge it seems.
 
If the property is 60 acres and it's a pond on the front of it, then the deer have a water source.
 
m411b said:
I ask because in some states water specifically put out for deer during deer season is considered baiting deer.

With TN being a very strict state on baiting I figure it was the same. My local GW said he wouldn't write me a ticket for putting troughs out with water in them strictly for deer during the season, or if I killed a deer while it was drinking water out of said troughs.

I have 60 acres that has 3 creeks on it. But they never have water unless a heavy rain comes. The previous owner thought it was a good idea to block the source for all three creeks to create a 50ft x 100ft pond. I have to rent some equipment to undue his ignorance.

So until then water troughs have been put out, and the deer go to them more than they do the feeders.

The water is not an issue.

However, if you as stated in your post have multiple feeders out on 60 acres, you may be very limited in where you could legally hunt. Each feeder effectively shuts down approximately 40 acres to legal hunting.
 
scn said:
m411b said:
I ask because in some states water specifically put out for deer during deer season is considered baiting deer.

With TN being a very strict state on baiting I figure it was the same. My local GW said he wouldn't write me a ticket for putting troughs out with water in them strictly for deer during the season, or if I killed a deer while it was drinking water out of said troughs.

I have 60 acres that has 3 creeks on it. But they never have water unless a heavy rain comes. The previous owner thought it was a good idea to block the source for all three creeks to create a 50ft x 100ft pond. I have to rent some equipment to undue his ignorance.

So until then water troughs have been put out, and the deer go to them more than they do the feeders.

The water is not an issue.

However, if you as stated in your post have multiple feeders out on 60 acres, you may be very limited in where you could legally hunt. Each feeder effectively shuts down approximately 40 acres to legal hunting.

Only 2 feeders, and as long as there is no feed on the ground or being spread 10 days before I hunt. It's perfectly legal.

I'm not hunting bow.

Nealmeally said:
If the property is 60 acres and it's a pond on the front of it, then the deer have a water source.

What's your point?
You're right they do have a water source. The troughs!
They don't use the pond by the road. After several months of watching with 2 cameras, not once did a deer go to that pond.
 
And I don't think opening the pond will solve your creek problem. If the creeks were flowing, there would be water coming out of the pond. If water is going in, it has to come out, the pond is not going to stop it.
 
m411b said:
scn said:
m411b said:
I ask because in some states water specifically put out for deer during deer season is considered baiting deer.

With TN being a very strict state on baiting I figure it was the same. My local GW said he wouldn't write me a ticket for putting troughs out with water in them strictly for deer during the season, or if I killed a deer while it was drinking water out of said troughs.

I have 60 acres that has 3 creeks on it. But they never have water unless a heavy rain comes. The previous owner thought it was a good idea to block the source for all three creeks to create a 50ft x 100ft pond. I have to rent some equipment to undue his ignorance.

So until then water troughs have been put out, and the deer go to them more than they do the feeders.

The water is not an issue.

However, if you as stated in your post have multiple feeders out on 60 acres, you may be very limited in where you could legally hunt. Each feeder effectively shuts down approximately 40 acres to legal hunting.

Only 2 feeders, and as long as there is no feed on the ground or being spread 10 days before I hunt. It's perfectly legal.

I'm not hunting bow.

Nealmeally said:
If the property is 60 acres and it's a pond on the front of it, then the deer have a water source.

You're right they do have a water source. The troughs!
They don't use the pond by the road. After several months of watching with 2 cameras, not once did a deer go to that pond.

Just a note, but the feeders need to be empty, and if electronic, disabled ten days prior to hunting.
 
scn said:
m411b said:
scn said:
m411b said:
I ask because in some states water specifically put out for deer during deer season is considered baiting deer.

With TN being a very strict state on baiting I figure it was the same. My local GW said he wouldn't write me a ticket for putting troughs out with water in them strictly for deer during the season, or if I killed a deer while it was drinking water out of said troughs.

I have 60 acres that has 3 creeks on it. But they never have water unless a heavy rain comes. The previous owner thought it was a good idea to block the source for all three creeks to create a 50ft x 100ft pond. I have to rent some equipment to undue his ignorance.

So until then water troughs have been put out, and the deer go to them more than they do the feeders.

The water is not an issue.

However, if you as stated in your post have multiple feeders out on 60 acres, you may be very limited in where you could legally hunt. Each feeder effectively shuts down approximately 40 acres to legal hunting.

Only 2 feeders, and as long as there is no feed on the ground or being spread 10 days before I hunt. It's perfectly legal.

I'm not hunting bow.

Nealmeally said:
If the property is 60 acres and it's a pond on the front of it, then the deer have a water source.

You're right they do have a water source. The troughs!
They don't use the pond by the road. After several months of watching with 2 cameras, not once did a deer go to that pond.

Just a note, but the feeders need to be empty, and if electronic, disabled ten days prior to hunting.

Right on. Thanks for that.
 
CATCHDAWG said:
And I don't think opening the pond will solve your creek problem. If the creeks were flowing, there would be water coming out of the pond. If water is going in, it has to come out, the pond is not going to stop it.

Yes. The pond never dries up. So it has a constant source. I think a spring in the bottom of it. But not enough to over flow. So I'm gonna dig a trench below the water line about a foot to allow a constant flow to the creeks.
 

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