Waddell
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he makes good points but A he is in the business of selling gear which has to be taken into account. I do however agree to the extreme example he used on "YOU SUCK OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING"
while I dont agree at all with some of the tactics these days i would never tell another hunter such things. Can leave most of it as either a congrats or just keep scrolling. Purposly making someone feel bad for no other reason then my own personal opinions isnt the right way to handle anything. I generally dont know them or their knowledge or situation plus I assure you at some point in my hunting career Ive done some things Im not proud of these days lol.
Hunt how you find the most excitement but neither side of the coin should pass judgment on the other (unless its someone like @Gravey that just a shady dude, then feel free)
while I dont agree at all with some of the tactics these days i would never tell another hunter such things. Can leave most of it as either a congrats or just keep scrolling. Purposly making someone feel bad for no other reason then my own personal opinions isnt the right way to handle anything. I generally dont know them or their knowledge or situation plus I assure you at some point in my hunting career Ive done some things Im not proud of these days lol.
Hunt how you find the most excitement but neither side of the coin should pass judgment on the other (unless its someone like @Gravey that just a shady dude, then feel free)
megalomaniac
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Michael Waddell just plain sucks as a turkey hunter. But at some point, he needs to admit he sucks as a turkey hunter and wants to get better instead of just reaping. Folks calling him out because he sucks and is lazy are not doing it because they are jealous of him... they actually want him to develop the desire to improve his skills turkey hunting and appreciate what turkey hunting is all about. Folks like me have given up on him tho and no longer give a crap about his opinions.
TheLBLman
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In his earlier times, I did listen to his opinions,
but quickly figured out he was just another "promoter" of stuff
that too often devalues hunting and leads newbies to unrealistic expectations.
When I see an item with his endorsement,
that just repulses me from buying it.
So you have a problem with me hunting with tss patterned at 100 yards while sitting in my ground blind with a remote control turkey strutter over a pile of corn?!?! Why you gotta be a hater???
Seriously though I agree with you. I don't agree with some things being done today and I'm sure there are those who wouldn't agree with my opinion. At the end of the day just get out and enjoy Gods great outdoors.
Exactly. Everyone is always concerned about what someone else is doing or how they do itSo you have a problem with me hunting with tss patterned at 100 yards while sitting in my ground blind with a remote control turkey strutter over a pile of corn?!?! Why you gotta be a hater???
Seriously though I agree with you. I don't agree with some things being done today and I'm sure there are those who wouldn't agree with my opinion. At the end of the day just get out and enjoy Gods great outdoors.
Rakkin6
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I agree, it's like in Kentucky hunting over bait is legal but not here in Tennessee. In North Carolina they run deer with dogs. Both just seem wrong to me but they are legal in those states. So unless it is illegal I really don't care. Now that being said I also don't listen to all the "outdoor experts"
Well he does suck so there's that
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Let's be serious, Waddell doesn't suck at turkey hunting, but his methods of fanning and whatever that nonsense he is doing now beating the decoy is ridiculous.
I think Waddell is probably a great guy, but I'd love to see him approach this topic with a different attitude.
I think Waddell is probably a great guy, but I'd love to see him approach this topic with a different attitude.
Stick him in some public land like the mountains of north Georgia or East TN, take away his decoys and blinds and see how he does. If he has any Woodmanship at all he will tag a bird or two. My guess there's a reason he hunts those loaded turkey farms.
JCDEERMAN
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You could say that for just about anyone on tv. I've always said, put "him" in the rolling hardwoods of TN and give him 2 weeks. See how well they do (especially for deer). They likely won't have much fun. Put "him" where the sponsors say to go, it's money in the bank.
Because it pays the bills?
I don't watch his videos, or anyone for that matter, other than Catman, and some THP and Shane occasionally.
But, everyone knows that those videos drive sales to certain products. So, if it is your JOB, and you are getting paid to video your hunts, and you KNOW that successful hunts are what people want to see, where would you go
?I use my East Tennessee turkey hunting as deer season scouting. I have better luck finding good deer hunting spots during turkey season than actually finding a turkey lol
megalomaniac
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Put him on a loaded private farm and give him some turkey calls and nothing else. He gonna starve.
Good for you, I could care less if you think he sucks.
Rakkin6
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I won't lie, growing up in Morgan County the deer hunting was tough. Plus when you kill one the drag out was horrible. I much prefer Clarksville/Hopkinsville farmland to hunting Catoosa, Gobey or my family land along the Obed. Much more forgiving.
I'm glad it's not my job to exploit wildlife for profit.Because it pays the bills?
I don't watch his videos, or anyone for that matter, other than Catman, and some THP and Shane occasionally.
But, everyone knows that those videos drive sales to certain products. So, if it is your JOB, and you are getting paid to video your hunts, and you KNOW that successful hunts are what people want to see, where would you go
This thread. Lol
I've watched Waddel since he got started with Bill Jordan and Realtree. I don't know him personally, but he seems like a good guy. And he's done extremely well for himself, and his family, in an industry that most of us dreamt about at some point in our lives - or still do. Maybe there is some jealousy here? I don't know.
And as far as saying "I wish he would come hunt x or y and show everyone how good he is" are the same guys claiming the ones that are actually doing that (thp), and having success, are ruining public hunting.
Some of you guys should come into the political forum where you will find more worthwhile targets to direct your vitriol. And leave your fellow outdoorsman alone.
I've watched Waddel since he got started with Bill Jordan and Realtree. I don't know him personally, but he seems like a good guy. And he's done extremely well for himself, and his family, in an industry that most of us dreamt about at some point in our lives - or still do. Maybe there is some jealousy here? I don't know.
And as far as saying "I wish he would come hunt x or y and show everyone how good he is" are the same guys claiming the ones that are actually doing that (thp), and having success, are ruining public hunting.
Some of you guys should come into the political forum where you will find more worthwhile targets to direct your vitriol. And leave your fellow outdoorsman alone.
megalomaniac
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Nothing wrong on telling it like it is.
Waddell is funny, seems like a great guy, seems to genuinely enjoy and spend time with his fans.
He's a great cameraman (or was), a very good shot with a bow, a good/ great whitetail hunter, pretty decent elk hunter.
But he is a terrible turkey hunter from the videos I've seen with him in them. He doesn't understand turkey conversation, and unfortunately exploits the one weakness toms have.
Lots of the u tubers you speak of who used to reap and had terrible calling skills have upped their game and have become some excellent turkey hunters. As such, they no longer need to reap to have success. That's what it's all about. But Waddell still can't speak turkey for crap and doesn't seem to have any interest in pursuing turkeys without reaping (Disclaimer, I have not seen any videos in him past couple years... maybe he has upped his game... but I doubt it.)
Just something about the way he turkey hunts... I feel terrible for those birds he kills. He just doesn't seem to respect or love the wild turkey... they are just a moving live target to him. (I don't know his heart, but that's the way it seems to me).
If THP can get it done in South Cherokee they have my respect.
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Some of you guys have some really pompous egotistical attitudes! Tape some of your calling and let us judge you.
The guy did win a national calling championship which is how he met Bill Jordan.
The guy did win a national calling championship which is how he met Bill Jordan.
No doubt he is better than me.
But, if he is that good, he ought to be able to give up the crutches. He personifies what is wrong with turkey hunting today with the kill at all costs mentality.
But, if he is that good, he ought to be able to give up the crutches. He personifies what is wrong with turkey hunting today with the kill at all costs mentality.
TheLBLman
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Turkey hunting isn't the same as a calling contest. Just because he's an excellent caller doesn't mean he's an excellent turkey killer.
No jealously here either, just wish some of these celebrity hunters used woodsmanship instead of crutches to kill thier birds.
Believe that he is a good hunter, probably a very good one at that. However he is a prime example of what can happen when your hobby becomes your job. I know that a lot of people think something like that would be a dream job, but it all changes when now have others to answer to such as employer, vendors, sponsors, etc... I know first hand as I after I took an early out from GE Nuclear in 1999, I started an off-road business that absolutely killed my passion for Jeeps. Got in on front of the e-commerce wave with 7 websites selling parts, had first Jeep parts on Amazon, employee's, warehouse, shop.... SEMA Show, Off Road Expo, Moab Easter Jeep Safari, Super Crawl, Rubicon Jeep Jamboree, and other venues every year for 15 years. Living the dream yeah, but changed everything about my old Jeep hobby. Focus became more sales, more vehicles, more money, more, more, more.... Finally burned myself out and had chance to sell out . Towards the end I thought about expanding into the hunting gear market and even went to SHOT SHOW and lined up some vendors. Had second thoughts and realized that I didn't want the same thing to happen to my love of hunting as it did to a 30 year Jeep hobby. Glad I didn't take that step.
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Thats golden!! Its obvious the people that have never met the REAL waddy! Pompous arrogant jerk is just a few quick adjectives. Social media and tv waddy is totally different than real life he is right up there with the sickening uncle ted
So you're saying when I need help with a long arm suspension on my LJ rubicon and axle swaps that you're the man to holler at? Lol Just kidding, I know exactly what you're saying about it changing from a passionate to a grind of a job.
I had to look him up on YouTube to see what you guys are talking about. I know who he is just didn't understand what the original OPs triggered video was about.
It must be the use of this 1/2 decoy thingy. I breezed through the opening day video he posted on 4-13, wholy cow this is crazy. Some YouTube fan boy is gonna get a face full of pellets if they attempt this in the wrong place .
It must be the use of this 1/2 decoy thingy. I breezed through the opening day video he posted on 4-13, wholy cow this is crazy. Some YouTube fan boy is gonna get a face full of pellets if they attempt this in the wrong place .
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