I told him to yell at the bird to get his head up but right then he shot... the breast only had 3 or 4 pellets, was not bad at all.Roost 1":33doj5uq said:
My opinion as well. I lost a bird years ago because I shot him in strut. 42 yards. Full strut. In a field. Wide open. Rolled him. When I got to him he ran into the woods and I never saw him again. I was sick for days about not making a quick kill. I vowed to never shoot one in strut again. Whether you mess up meat or not, it's not an ethical shot. I enjoyed the video up to that point though.Roost 1":35pvutgm said:
I don't see how it's any less ethical when you have his whole head and neck in full view head-on. I've missed birds with their head straight in the air so I don't think you can blame a strutting bird for getting away from a 42 yard shot. My only concern is the meat which isn't ruined, it's just more shot to pick out. This toms head was freakin tore up!Spurhunter":b00mz2a4 said:
x2. As usual Cat, great footage. Any hunter out there is rolling the dice when shooting one in strut, and many times, the bird is wounded and never recovered. This video footage should not be shown or promoted to the younger, more inexperienced hunters. My .02Roost 1":6irdp06s said:
I said that to spare getting shot in the meat. Even with his head tucked up in strut, it's not like shooting a dime, you still have about 10 inches of neck to cover with your pattern...how many pellets you get in a 10 inch circle? It's pretty obviously a dead bird unless you screw up the shot which we all do.Spurhunter":1k6qz8ax said:
This should show you how much more head and neck is exposed out of strut, and that's why you don't shoot them in strut. But you already know all this. Otherwise you wouldn't have told your buddy to make him come out of strut and pick his head up.
C'mon Cat, this isn't your girlfriend you are talking to. :rotf: :tu:catman529":s021ftkd said:
catman529":37xawsus said:
I'm just going off the amount of blood coming out of various places on that turkeys head and neck. It was nowhere near a marginal shot. I shot one 2 weeks ago with his neck tucked up like that and same result, blood everywhere and stone dead turkeySpurhunter":jqx3k0g4 said:
Roost 1":26m45kra said:
I never can recall missing a bird because he was strutting. Walking, brush in the way, too far, target panic, but not because one was strutting.Roost 1":3m10ly80 said:
i know what they are saying but I would bet just as many turkeys have been wounded and/or missed with their heads stuck straight up. I would not shoot at one strutting if it was turned to the side but if it was facing me and at a reasonable distance I would let him have it with 100% confidence.catman529":1ssu07ut said:
Of course there have, there have been thousands more shot at with their head up, like 99% of veteran hunters promote. If you shoot the same number with head up as head tucked in strutting (lots of vitals protected), I can promise you more that were shot in strut would run off to die, and never be found by the hunter.mathews338":xqmwpj6j said:
vitals protected? I thought the whole purpose of shooting them head up is to only shoot the head and neck, not other vitals. In strut you lose a couple inches of the neck but still put your pattern on the majority of the neck and the entire head... Daniel shot this bird lying prone which is I think the most accurate way to shoot, hit where he was aiming and peppered everything from the wattles up to the brain...dead bird...Andy S.":tkj4u60m said:
Correct...vitals as in spinal cord (NECK), wind pipe, jugular vein and other arteries that equate to a quick and humane kill the majority of the time. Sorry for the confusion, should have been more clear. Bottom line, a larger "vitals" target means you miss/cripple less and you recover more birds, and especially true if you shoot numerous turkeys over numerous years.catman529":36l35ehz said:
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