Turkey season opening day

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I like how TN's biggest hunting seasons open on Saturday. Good for most working people. I've been working Saturdays for a while now but I request off for opener. I don't mind the dates fluctuating just a little, it's always the Saturday closest to April 1.


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I despise the moving openers. Alabama has opened March 15th for as long as I can remember.

When they set the criteria of no earlier than x but no later than y, you get screwed up years. Take KY for example the season doesn't open until I think April 18th this year, last year I believe it was the 11th.

No biological reasoning behind these regs
 
Setterman":29mnnuyu said:
I despise the moving openers. Alabama has opened March 15th for as long as I can remember.

When they set the criteria of no earlier than x but no later than y, you get screwed up years. Take KY for example the season doesn't open until I think April 18th this year, last year I believe it was the 11th.

No biological reasoning behind these regs
what's the biological reasoning behind a fixed start date?


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catman529":1i8f27c2 said:
Setterman":1i8f27c2 said:
I despise the moving openers. Alabama has opened March 15th for as long as I can remember.

When they set the criteria of no earlier than x but no later than y, you get screwed up years. Take KY for example the season doesn't open until I think April 18th this year, last year I believe it was the 11th.

No biological reasoning behind these regs
what's the biological reasoning behind a fixed start date?


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Catman you kill me sometimes! I dont know if your serious or joking.

I dont think he was alluding there is necessarily a biological reason to have an official date like Alabama. Its like your birthday, its always said day of said month, not the saturday closets to Thanksgiving or whatever.


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catman529":2nfz85sv said:
Setterman":2nfz85sv said:
I despise the moving openers. Alabama has opened March 15th for as long as I can remember.

When they set the criteria of no earlier than x but no later than y, you get screwed up years. Take KY for example the season doesn't open until I think April 18th this year, last year I believe it was the 11th.

No biological reasoning behind these regs
what's the biological reasoning behind a fixed start date?


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:rotf: ha, none and I wasn't implying there was any biological reasoning.
 
Setterman":3kcbxyjx said:
I despise the moving openers. Alabama has opened March 15th for as long as I can remember.

When they set the criteria of no earlier than x but no later than y, you get screwed up years. Take KY for example the season doesn't open until I think April 18th this year, last year I believe it was the 11th.

No biological reasoning behind these regs

Actually there is... KY's former state turkey biologist through years of research determined that the majority of the hens would be bred by mid April. Therefore our season always opens the Sat closest to the 15th of April. It used to open a Wednesday but they changed it to Saturday to appease the weekend warriors.... I wish they would go back to a Wednesday opener..
 
Roost 1":3amkt1sy said:
Setterman":3amkt1sy said:
I despise the moving openers. Alabama has opened March 15th for as long as I can remember.

When they set the criteria of no earlier than x but no later than y, you get screwed up years. Take KY for example the season doesn't open until I think April 18th this year, last year I believe it was the 11th.

No biological reasoning behind these regs

Actually there is... KY's former state turkey biologist through years of research determined that the majority of the hens would be bred by mid April. Therefore our season always opens the Sat closest to the 15th of April. It used to open a Wednesday but they changed it to Saturday to appease the weekend warriors.... I wish they would go back to a Wednesday opener..

My point was they should have just left it at always opening on the 15th no matter the day of the week it falls on. Same here, pick a date that is the best biologically and that's when the season opens.

My point was also there is nothing biological about always opening it on a Saturday, if anything you could make a case that less birds would be harvested during mid week openers then on Saturday openers.
 
AT Hiker":m7x9g00c said:
catman529":m7x9g00c said:
Setterman":m7x9g00c said:
I despise the moving openers. Alabama has opened March 15th for as long as I can remember.

When they set the criteria of no earlier than x but no later than y, you get screwed up years. Take KY for example the season doesn't open until I think April 18th this year, last year I believe it was the 11th.

No biological reasoning behind these regs
what's the biological reasoning behind a fixed start date?


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Catman you kill me sometimes! I dont know if your serious or joking.

I dont think he was alluding there is necessarily a biological reason to have an official date like Alabama. Its like your birthday, its always said day of said month, not the saturday closets to Thanksgiving or whatever.


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you know, sometimes it's like I'm on a different plane of thought and completely miss the point. I don't get it, lol. But now I get it and feel like an idgit. :D


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Setterman":33wvqflh said:
I despise the moving openers. Alabama has opened March 15th for as long as I can remember.

When they set the criteria of no earlier than x but no later than y, you get screwed up years. Take KY for example the season doesn't open until I think April 18th this year, last year I believe it was the 11th.

No biological reasoning behind these regs

Alabama opens March 14th this year
 
muddyboots":35vt2smp said:
I wish TN season opened earlier.

It would if it opened on April 1st this year.

The reason I would like the April 01 opener is simple........You could look a year ahead or 10 years ahead and know what day the season opened. Besides, many more people have to work the weekends than in the past. I always had to work at least every other weekend when I worked maintenance. I always seemed to be able to take time off or trade days with someone else when the season opened.
 
TLRanger":2uuogt4i said:
muddyboots":2uuogt4i said:
I wish TN season opened earlier.

It would if it opened on April 1st this year.

The reason I would like the April 01 opener is simple........You could look a year ahead or 10 years ahead and know what day the season opened. Besides, many more people have to work the weekends than in the past. I always had to work at least every other weekend when I worked maintenance. I always seemed to be able to take time off or trade days with someone else when the season opened.
I feel your pain TL. But there are still more people who don't work on the weekends than those who do.
 
stik":3sxl1d53 said:
seasons should open on a weekend.

Why?
LBL's open hunts begin on a Monday and the first quota hunt is a Wed/Thu (I think). Doesn't seem to bother the turkey hunters there, allways seems to be a fullhouse. If the season opened on 1st of April, the only bad thing that I can think of is that the turkeys would learn that and be much harder to kill. With the random opening they have to guess. :mrgreen:
 
TLRanger":2viahs44 said:
stik":2viahs44 said:
seasons should open on a weekend.

Why?
LBL's open hunts begin on a Monday and the first quota hunt is a Wed/Thu (I think). Doesn't seem to bother the turkey hunters there, allways seems to be a fullhouse. If the season opened on 1st of April, the only bad thing that I can think of is that the turkeys would learn that and be much harder to kill. With the random opening they have to guess. :mrgreen:

why? because more people are off on the weekend.
 
I think our turkey opener needs to be about 1-2 weeks earlier than it is now. Take a week or so away from May and give it to March. Most of the years, the weather gets warm in early March and the breeding starts way before the season opens. Therefore, most of the breeding is over by the end of April and May ends up being more for the ticks and hot weather than the turkeys.
 
Coker":17pdz8un said:
I think our turkey opener needs to be about 1-2 weeks earlier than it is now. Take a week or so away from May and give it to March. Most of the years, the weather gets warm in early March and the breeding starts way before the season opens. Therefore, most of the breeding is over by the end of April and May ends up being more for the ticks and hot weather than the turkeys.
You can stay home in late April and all of May. Just send me your turkey spot addresses. :tu: :moon:
 
Coker":1lexw1fn said:
I think our turkey opener needs to be about 1-2 weeks earlier than it is now. Take a week or so away from May and give it to March. Most of the years, the weather gets warm in early March and the breeding starts way before the season opens. Therefore, most of the breeding is over by the end of April and May ends up being more for the ticks and hot weather than the turkeys.

That's the actually point of the season. You ideally want season to start when breeding is already in full swing to ensure the population the next season. To add to that from a hunting stand point the best time to hunt is AFTER the hens are bread anyways.

You do not want to start the season prior to breeding from a biological standpoint


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Gravey":19ajw3uj said:
Coker":19ajw3uj said:
I think our turkey opener needs to be about 1-2 weeks earlier than it is now. Take a week or so away from May and give it to March. Most of the years, the weather gets warm in early March and the breeding starts way before the season opens. Therefore, most of the breeding is over by the end of April and May ends up being more for the ticks and hot weather than the turkeys.
You can stay home in late April and all of May. Just send me your turkey spot addresses. :tu: :moon:
You can have my spots in May. By that time, the turkeys are not gobbling and have not interest in hens.

REN":19ajw3uj said:
Coker":19ajw3uj said:
I think our turkey opener needs to be about 1-2 weeks earlier than it is now. Take a week or so away from May and give it to March. Most of the years, the weather gets warm in early March and the breeding starts way before the season opens. Therefore, most of the breeding is over by the end of April and May ends up being more for the ticks and hot weather than the turkeys.

That's the actually point of the season. You ideally want season to start when breeding is already in full swing to ensure the population the next season. To add to that from a hunting stand point the best time to hunt is AFTER the hens are bread anyways.

You do not want to start the season prior to breeding from a biological standpoint


Proverbs 3:5
"Trust in the lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding"

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I dont want to start the season before breeding starts, I want to start the season shortly after the breeding starts. Generally, the breeding starts in Middle March. I would love for the season to always start on the 3rd Saturday in March. From a biological standpoint, hens will get bred no matter if its before or during hunting season.
 
not if the gobblers get killed first... There have been many times I have been able to call gobblers away from un-receptive hens last of March first of April.. I don't think the season should start any earlier last Saturday in March.
 
Coker":2bh31k6c said:
I dont want to start the season before breeding starts, I want to start the season shortly after the breeding starts. Generally, the breeding starts in Middle March. I would love for the season to always start on the 3rd Saturday in March. From a biological standpoint, hens will get bred no matter if its before or during hunting season.

not if there are not any toms, again the point is to start the season after the toms have had a chance to breed a lot of hens so once you remove the toms from the area you will have hens that will nest and produce poults for the following year. You start removing the toms prior to hens really getting breed then you will whip out the population and a very small amount of time.
 
Yall must have a very small Tom population. At 4 toms per person per year, I can't put a dent in my population.
 
you say that, move the season up before breeding is really going and see how big it is in a few years. its pretty simple math actually, Biologist do actually know some things.
 

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