Tube peep sight vs. Tubeless???

[RidgeRunner13]

Hey y'all. This is my first post on here, and I have a question or two for you gentlemen. I've been shooting a tubed peep sight for years and after shooting today I really started considering switching to a tubeless peep. What are cons of the tubeless, and what do y'all recommend? I'm hearing the rubber slap more and more, and frankly, I'm tired of dealing with replacing tubing. Any insight is greatly appreciated.

 

[Ironsmith-Jared]

About the only con to a tubeless peep is the fact that it MIGHT not draw back straight everytime you pull your bow back. If you have a pre-stretched string, you shouldn't have many problems with this until your string gets older. I shoot a G5 Meta Peep in green. I have the 1/4" aperture so it lets in a lot of light. Love my peep. For $10, it's worth a try.

 

[RidgeRunner13]

I plan on changing the peep next month when I get the cable and string changed. So I'll keep that in mind on my string selection. You're right for $10 bucks it is worth a shot, I just hope I like it being that close to season.

 

[Ironsmith-Jared]

Yea I would say keep your old peep. You will probably have to re-sight anyways due to your new string. Hope it turns out good!

 

[TNDeerGuy]

First of all, Welcome to the site! Shot a tube peep for years, but then again that was back in the day when you almost had to due to the type of string material. String material has come a very, very long way and made rotation problems almost a thing of the past. Not saying that you still can't have rotation problems, but if the serving is done right, the string is stretched properly and the peep is tied in correctly you can almost bet that the peep will do what it should do. I use for my hunting setup a 1/4" G5 meta peep, my target bow I use a 1/8".

 

[thetoolman]

Biggest problem is rotation. That was the biggest reason I went to the tube. On my assassain I have a standard peep and it took a few times to get it setup, but mininmal rotation now.

 

[UTGrad]

The strings I have from Energy Wave currently on my bow have not rotated and I've probably put 1,000 shots. I have a buddy that still shoots a tube peep regardless cause if he had a B&C buck and couldn't see cause the peep rotated well...you can imagine.

 

[TheAirMan]

I hate tubing. I have used a 3/16 meta peep for years. With a quality string that is settled in, you should be able to set it and not worry about it for a long time as long as you don't leave the bow in a hot car or something

 

[FOX FIRE]

gave up on the tube years ago, dont remember the brand I have now but it works great & I dont get slapped in the face every time a tube breaks & it opens up the string unuff you can see during low light hours VS a try'n to see thru a tiny peep hole.

This aint exactly the one I have but looks very simaler & he gives a good "how to" demo (despite the camera man), take a look.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oEra18_MU4

 

[deerhunter10]

I shoot lubeless my tube kept breaking off. so I switched and love the tubeless.

 

[RidgeRunner13]

I'm thinking about going with the Winner's Choice strings and cable system. How are they on rotation and stretching. I've never really experimented with different strings, but I'm finally going to change it up. As far as twist for a tubeless what are the strings y'all best recommend?

 

[r'ville a-bolt]

x2 mine kept breaking to switched to tubeless never looked back

 

[switchbacker]

1/4 g5 blue meta for me, you wont be disappointed

 

[TNDeerGuy]

I'm thinking about going with the Winner's Choice strings and cable system. How are they on rotation and stretching. I've never really experimented with different strings, but I'm finally going to change it up. As far as twist for a tubeless what are the strings y'all best recommend?

Winner's Choice is very over-priced ($120-$130) but it is a decent string�not worth the pricetag though IMO. Every WC string set I have used has creeped on me a bit and took a short time for the string to settle to the point where the peep would hold. I would very strongly advise you to look into www.EnergyWaveBowstrings.com made right here in TN and a member of this forum, (fasteddie). His strings are top quality and half the price of Winner's Choice and the string is settled in less than 10 shots and creep is virtually a non-issue.

 

[RidgeRunner13]

Thanks TNDeerGuy. I believe I'm gonna go with the strings you recommend. I'll be placing an order within the next few weeks. Thanks again.

 

[UTGrad]

I've got Energy Wave strings and my peep hasn't moved and the ATA and BH have remained in spec. Great strings.

 

[TNGunsmoke]

I shoot tubeless on the off chance that the tube breaks and pops me in the eye, it would really hurt...

 

[RidgeRunner13]

Yea, that's one of the reasons why I'm wanting to switch. That and the slap is rather loud. I just want to make my rig quieter and safer.

 

[TJS209]

I use a tubeless peep and never had any problems.

 

[REM7]

Tubeless, less stuff to get me tangled up

 

[HOOK]

Tubes make too much noise...I've been tubeless forever....

 

[Headhunter]

posted on another thread, get rid of the peep sight, get an anchor sight. I used the "no-peep" first and loved it and the anchor sight is even better. made by archery innovations.

 

[Poleaxe]

First thing I've always done after every new bow I buy before I even shoot it is put a Winners Choice on it just because of the manufacture stretching and uncooperative peep straightness. The Heli-m I bought last yr was the first time I haven't immediately purchased a after market string and now with me shooting it in 3D's I'm back to the peep problem. I have missed the last 2 shoots account of not wanting to shell out $120 for a new one. Thanks to TN Guy with his above thread my problem will now be solved.. Thanks.

 

[Headhunter]

Any bow I have owned or if I ever get a new one, gets winners choice strings and cables.

 

[nodog]

The strings I have from Energy Wave currently on my bow have not rotated and I've probably put 1,000 shots. I have a buddy that still shoots a tube peep regardless cause if he had a B&C buck and couldn't see cause the peep rotated well...you can imagine.

I've had that problem, never a huge problem just slightly off. I just bring the peep to my mouth and finish the rotation. no big deal. Never did it hunting, only when getting things ready to hunt. He should be more worried about the tube, them things are a pain.

For the OP, do your self a favor, get a press and learn to work on your own bow. Takes trial an error to get a bow shooting like silk, with a press you can do it. The peep will change with every change.

Lets say you always shoot low, the problem could be your lower limbs are weaker that the top and on release the top limbs are pulling the nock up. Adjusting the limbs will effect the rotation of the peep, not to mention the discrepancy is creating more noise and robbing the arrow of energy. The peep will need reset and that is done twisting the string...you need a press.

When you get rid of that tube you might here noises you couldn't before, you'll want to eliminate them, a shop won't put the time and effort into the task...you need a press. I made mine out of some 60 year old cherry, served (yuk yuk yuk ) me well, but anything that holds the bow in place while pulling it down with some ratchet straps will do. Contrary to popular O it isn't rocket science even though we are shooting missiles.

 

[TNDeerGuy]

The strings I have from Energy Wave currently on my bow have not rotated and I've probably put 1,000 shots. I have a buddy that still shoots a tube peep regardless cause if he had a B&C buck and couldn't see cause the peep rotated well...you can imagine.

I've had that problem, never a huge problem just slightly off. I just bring the peep to my mouth and finish the rotation. no big deal. Never did it hunting, only when getting things ready to hunt. He should be more worried about the tube, them things are a pain.

For the OP, do your self a favor, get a press and learn to work on your own bow. Takes trial an error to get a bow shooting like silk, with a press you can do it. The peep will change with every change.

Lets say you always shoot low, the problem could be your lower limbs are weaker that the top and on release the top limbs are pulling the nock up. Adjusting the limbs will effect the rotation of the peep, not to mention the discrepancy is creating more noise and robbing the arrow of energy. The peep will need reset and that is done twisting the string...you need a press.

When you get rid of that tube you might here noises you couldn't before, you'll want to eliminate them, a shop won't put the time and effort into the task...you need a press. I made mine out of some 60 year old cherry, served (yuk yuk yuk ) me well, but anything that holds the bow in place while pulling it down with some ratchet straps will do. Contrary to popular O it isn't rocket science even though we are shooting missiles.

You are right about learning how to work on your own�almost no one will take the time like you will. However, I very strongly disagree with the last part of your post. The modern parallel limb, and beyond parallel limb, bows are very easy to damage either the limbs, the riser or other critical pieces if pressed incorrectly�the days of some ratchet straps pulling a bow down against two solid pieces have long passed and it can be very damaging to the bow and/or the user. There are several affordable, and safe options, for pressing the modern compound bow.

 

[RidgeRunner13]

I completely understand about having my own press. I know I asked a novice question, but on the contrary I'm not a novice to working on my bow. I have a press available to me so that isn't an issue. The reason for the novice question about strings and peep are solely because of the time I quit shooting. My bow was due for a string change when I put it up before military service. I didn't have much time to shoot while I was in so it just stayed packed up. Last year I broke it back out and within two days of tuning and getting prepped for some much needed love I wrecked my motorcycle. I spent a month and half in a sling I couldn't shoot my bow. I was just curious of what everyone's opinions of the tubeless peep and which strings were recommended because now I don't have a motorcycle lol and am safe to hunt. I will definitely take your advice, but I had already planned for new noises. I'm currently setting up two of my buddies to start their first years bow hunting also. My schedule is full right now, but I would love to see some first timers be successful this season. Thank you for the advice.

 

[RidgeRunner13]

I definitely agree with you on that one. I've seen some horror stories unfold with improper pressing. It's a scary thought as to what some people will do to save a buck, and ruin a $700-$1000+ bow.

 

[Headhunter]

Problems with peep sights is why I got rid of them. Waste of money IMO. I have set several people up with the no peep and a few with the archery innvoations system and all of them wish they would have gotten rid of a peep sight years ago.

 

[RidgeRunner13]

I've viewed the products you were talking about Headhunter, and I just don't think it's something I would like. I having everything working fluidly now except for the slap of my peep sight tube on my cables and strings.