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spitndrum":2lc2xfo4 said:
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i know the guy in the first pic, he is from Camden. Looks like some great deer have been killed.


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I didn't see a deer today from the stand got down at 11 when the rain started moving in. Only hunting the morning hunt in the morning if its not pouring

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Had the buck of my dreams at 15yds broadside and I was busy replying to a damn text and let him get away
 
Roost 1":2pcxucym said:
rem270":2pcxucym said:
Some great bucks killed. I'll be putting in starting next year.


Me too, maybe we will get drawn together.
Definitely!
I've never applied for any hunt. I'm ready to change some things up and try new stuff so i plan on applying for a few next year.
 
rem270":2mn1428x said:
Roost 1":2mn1428x said:
rem270":2mn1428x said:
Some great bucks killed. I'll be putting in starting next year.


Me too, maybe we will get drawn together.
Definitely!
I've never applied for any hunt. I'm ready to change some things up and try new stuff so i plan on applying for a few next year.

If you put in for anything else and get drawn you will have no priority points and you won't get pi
 

If you put in for anything else and get drawn you will have no priority points and you won't get pi[/quote]
Thanks for that info. I have to start reading up on all this stuff!
 
Crazy question.... What would happen if you jumped the gun and pulled the release on a monster 5 1/2 old 8ptr.. You screwed up and took a quick shot on a Giant....and now you have a monster deer laying dead that didnt meet the standard... Whats the punishment???
 
jcooper81":2f4kqu68 said:
Do you have to have a boat to get to the island?

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no there is only one entrance where you drive in and TWRA is set up next to the camping area. The island is a peninsula just looks like an island.


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jcooper81":3u6a0hmp said:
Do you have to have a boat to get to the island?

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President's Island *used to be* an island, but a big public works project (which was great for the city of Memphis, by the way) built "Jack Carley Causeway" connecting the Memphis mainland to the island.

The southern portion of the island is considerably higher in elevation than the rest of it, both naturally and due to man-made modifications. That area is developed into an industrial complex with a variety of businesses operating. The area north of the big levee is the property in question, which is owned by the Memphis Port Authority (mostly). The TWRA just manages the hunt.
 
bhud84":149z2k74 said:
Crazy question.... What would happen if you jumped the gun and pulled the release on a monster 5 1/2 old 8ptr.. You screwed up and took a quick shot on a Giant....and now you have a monster deer laying dead that didnt meet the standard... Whats the punishment???

I'm curious about this too. I know this had to have happened before.


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bhud84":2ujn6wu5 said:
Crazy question.... What would happen if you jumped the gun and pulled the release on a monster 5 1/2 old 8ptr.. You screwed up and took a quick shot on a Giant....and now you have a monster deer laying dead that didnt meet the standard... Whats the punishment???

When I hunted there, twra had a skull that would have been a 9 point but it had both brow tines broken off. They used it as a warning and said that it had been confiscated at a prior hunt. I think they keep the deer (at least the head) and write you a ticket for killing an illegal deer. It would not be a fun way to celebrate killing a great deer.
 
Thanks for your response to my question crosshairy. I always wondered about that rule, the island only has one buck hunt per year with a bow so I agree with you the rule may not even be needed,but again I am just a deer hunter and know little about the biological standpoint of it all. I also agree with you in the fact that if you wait 8 to 10 years for the hunt you are probably not going to shoot a small buck . I will be driving 5 hours when i finally get the hunt and will be selective. Another question for you could 140 inch or better 8 pointers be dyeing of old age on the island because of the rule? I always wondered that. Thanks again for your response!
 
In the decade it takes to draw, you could surely kill a nice buck on another draw hunt. Also no assurance the hunt will continue since TWRA doesn't own the land. What about Ensely unit? How many points to draw that?


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PickettSFHunter":3k51r7b4 said:
In the decade it takes to draw, you could surely kill a nice buck on another draw hunt. Also no assurance the hunt will continue since TWRA doesn't own the land. What about Ensely unit? How many points to draw that?


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id say your odds of killing a pope and young with a bow are much higher at PI than if you hunted most any other WMA every year for 10 years. In fact your pretty well guaranteed P&Y if you make a kill. I imagine 99.9% of the deer that are kllled make the books. Not arguing at all, just my opinion.


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PickettSFHunter":316hcy8n said:
In the decade it takes to draw, you could surely kill a nice buck on another draw hunt. Also no assurance the hunt will continue since TWRA doesn't own the land. What about Ensely unit? How many points to draw that?


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this is my thinking, I'm not gonna wait 10 years when I could hunt some draw hunts closer to home that I enjoy, and I am more likely to kill a giant somewhere here within the next 10 years, since we do have giants running around here too. Now I will be putting in for the PI doe hunt again, it was fun.
 
cbhunter":1ljgmqir said:
PickettSFHunter":1ljgmqir said:
In the decade it takes to draw, you could surely kill a nice buck on another draw hunt. Also no assurance the hunt will continue since TWRA doesn't own the land. What about Ensely unit? How many points to draw that?


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id say your odds of killing a pope and young with a bow are much higher at PI than if you hunted most any other WMA every year for 10 years. In fact your pretty well guaranteed P&Y if you make a kill. I imagine 99.9% of the deer that are kllled make the books. Not arguing at all, just my opinion.


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What's the success rate on the island? 3 days versus 10 whole seasons of hunting... And I dont care if it's public or private, I'd be happy to kill a P&Y anywhere, and it is very likely to happen in the next 10 years if I keep hunting the way I hunt...
 
catman529":14wb82zx said:
cbhunter":14wb82zx said:
PickettSFHunter":14wb82zx said:
In the decade it takes to draw, you could surely kill a nice buck on another draw hunt. Also no assurance the hunt will continue since TWRA doesn't own the land. What about Ensely unit? How many points to draw that?


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id say your odds of killing a pope and young with a bow are much higher at PI than if you hunted most any other WMA every year for 10 years. In fact your pretty well guaranteed P&Y if you make a kill. I imagine 99.9% of the deer that are kllled make the books. Not arguing at all, just my opinion.


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What's the success rate on the island? 3 days versus 10 whole seasons of hunting... And I dont care if it's public or private, I'd be happy to kill a P&Y anywhere, and it is very likely to happen in the next 10 years if I keep hunting the way I hunt...
maybe I misunderstood but I was thinking he meant other draw hunts which would be 3 days per year equal to 30 days hunting over 10 yrs vs 3 days at PI. Cat your an extremely effective hunter and better at your age than most people that have hunted their whole life. I commend you for that. You also hunt in a monster rich part of the state. I'd be tickled for you to kill a pope and young every year. But for the average hunter that don't get to put in the time and effort that you are blessed to do, I still think PI once every 10 years gives you an advantage over other draw hunts as far as taking a buck of a lifetime


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cbhunter":3q5ecmsn said:
catman529":3q5ecmsn said:
cbhunter":3q5ecmsn said:
PickettSFHunter said:
In the decade it takes to draw, you could surely kill a nice buck on another draw hunt. Also no assurance the hunt will continue since TWRA doesn't own the land. What about Ensely unit? How many points to draw that?


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id say your odds of killing a pope and young with a bow are much higher at PI than if you hunted most any other WMA every year for 10 years. In fact your pretty well guaranteed P&Y if you make a kill. I imagine 99.9% of the deer that are kllled make the books. Not arguing at all, just my opinion.


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What's the success rate on the island? 3 days versus 10 whole seasons of hunting... And I dont care if it's public or private, I'd be happy to kill a P&Y anywhere, and it is very likely to happen in the next 10 years if I keep hunting the way I hunt...
maybe I misunderstood but I was thinking he meant other draw hunts which would be 3 days per year equal to 30 days hunting over 10 yrs vs 3 days at PI. Cat your an extremely effective hunter and better at your age than most people that have hunted their whole life. I commend you for that. You also hunt in a monster rich part of the state. I'd be tickled for you to kill a pope and young every year. But for the average hunter that don't get to put in the time and effort that you are blessed to do, I still think PI once every 10 years gives you an advantage over other draw hunts as far as taking a buck of a lifetime


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I guess I can see where some areas people don't have a shot at a good one, especially east TN. And the draw hunts I usually get aren't worth a crap for a big buck, I just enjoy hunting those places and would hate to give em up for 10 years. There are a lot of big bucks around where I live but maybe only 1/3 of my hunting is in this county and the rest is south on public land. I'd be more happy with a 120" on the WMA than a 140" on a private honey hole. And the public land produces a couple of really big deer every season. So maybe in the next 10 years, I might get a shot at one, if I ever figure out how to hunt bucks like I hunt does, lol


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catman529":1xufq9ff said:
cbhunter":1xufq9ff said:
catman529":1xufq9ff said:
cbhunter said:
PickettSFHunter said:
In the decade it takes to draw, you could surely kill a nice buck on another draw hunt. Also no assurance the hunt will continue since TWRA doesn't own the land. What about Ensely unit? How many points to draw that?


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id say your odds of killing a pope and young with a bow are much higher at PI than if you hunted most any other WMA every year for 10 years. In fact your pretty well guaranteed P&Y if you make a kill. I imagine 99.9% of the deer that are kllled make the books. Not arguing at all, just my opinion.


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What's the success rate on the island? 3 days versus 10 whole seasons of hunting... And I dont care if it's public or private, I'd be happy to kill a P&Y anywhere, and it is very likely to happen in the next 10 years if I keep hunting the way I hunt...
maybe I misunderstood but I was thinking he meant other draw hunts which would be 3 days per year equal to 30 days hunting over 10 yrs vs 3 days at PI. Cat your an extremely effective hunter and better at your age than most people that have hunted their whole life. I commend you for that. You also hunt in a monster rich part of the state. I'd be tickled for you to kill a pope and young every year. But for the average hunter that don't get to put in the time and effort that you are blessed to do, I still think PI once every 10 years gives you an advantage over other draw hunts as far as taking a buck of a lifetime


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I guess I can see where some areas people don't have a shot at a good one, especially east TN. And the draw hunts I usually get aren't worth a crap for a big buck, I just enjoy hunting those places and would hate to give em up for 10 years. There are a lot of big bucks around where I live but maybe only 1/3 of my hunting is in this county and the rest is south on public land. I'd be more happy with a 120" on the WMA than a 140" on a private honey hole. And the public land produces a couple of really big deer every season. So maybe in the next 10 years, I might get a shot at one, if I ever figure out how to hunt bucks like I hunt does, lol


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your chance is definitely coming. Congrats on a great season bud


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deerfever":2cjnj1do said:
Thanks for your response to my question crosshairy. I always wondered about that rule, the island only has one buck hunt per year with a bow so I agree with you the rule may not even be needed,but again I am just a deer hunter and know little about the biological standpoint of it all. I also agree with you in the fact that if you wait 8 to 10 years for the hunt you are probably not going to shoot a small buck . I will be driving 5 hours when i finally get the hunt and will be selective. Another question for you could 140 inch or better 8 pointers be dyeing of old age on the island because of the rule? I always wondered that. Thanks again for your response!

That absolutely happens - there are lots of giant 8-pointers, I'm sure, which is part of the reason why I think the restriction is silly. I've talked to some other hunters that saw those exact type of 8 pointers you reference.

If they had 4 or 5 buck hunts per year, instead of 1, then I'd be worried about thinning the herd of too many up-and-coming big boys. As it stands, they could change the regulations to 8-point minimum and probably not sacrifice that many extra kills.

At the end of the day, this hunt and the opportunities it provides represent a tiny fraction of hunting activity in the state. As such, I don't think that it gets (or necessarily deserves) a huge amount of resources for evaluation of the hunting conditions, relative to all of the other needs of the state.
 

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