Reselling a registered gun?

[3006hollowpoint]

My pappy bought me a 12 gauge mossy, and I might be selling it to help pay for a Huglu O/U. Nothing I hunt will need more than 2 rounds in a given moment without a 10 second reload. And the huglu is gorgeous.
However, I'm not quite 18 yet, and i got another 2 months or less. Since its in my dads name, wont he have to "sell" it?

 

[Deerhunter]

Tn doesnt register guns.

 

[Grizzly Johnson]

Will you being under 18 come into play since you are still a "minor"?

Especially if it happens to be an undercover agent your selling it too.... can't be too careful these days.

Son trust me, one of these days youll wish you had kept EVERYTHING your dad ever gave you, ESPECIALLY guns!!!

x2

 

[pressfit]

Years from now I guarantee you will say.
I wish I had never sold that gun my pappy bought me..

 

[pressfit]

Looks like we were all posting the same thing at the same time..lol

 

[3006hollowpoint]

Well Walmart sure does ask for a lot of numbers from it for not having registered it. And... I'm now second guessing selling it. He's got me a 38 put away and theres 2 shottys me and my brother will choose between, and 3 or 4 rifles, 6 handguns when the time comes. But its something else when he buys it for you i suppose. I just want that feeling when I walk in Franklin Gun Shop: "Hell yeah, I just bought a gun." I'll find some pennies somewheres to save Faithful from being sold.

 

[3006hollowpoint]

Will you being under 18 come into play since you are still a "minor"?

Especially if it happens to be an undercover agent your selling it too.... can't be too careful these days.

Son trust me, one of these days youll wish you had kept EVERYTHING your dad ever gave you, ESPECIALLY guns!!!

x2

The gun shop said I can buy whatever I please, I just can't pick it up til I'm of age, depending on what it is of course.

 

[Deerhunter]

The law says TBI is to destroy your records by close of buisness day, whether or not they do is debatable.

I probaly keep that mossy, and save up for whatever else I wanted. Ive got all but 1 gun dad give me and regret that 1

 

[3006hollowpoint]

Ohh... Do you have citation of that law or did u see it on a plaque? Just curious. And I wish Mossy didn't stop using walnut back whenever they did. The birchwood isnt terrible, just not as good-lookin as walnut.

 

[Deerhunter]

http://www.state.tn.us/sos/rules/1395/1395-01-03.pdf

Ohh... Do you have citation of that law or did u see it on a plaque? Just curious. And I wish Mossy didn't stop using walnut back whenever they did. The birchwood isnt terrible, just not as good-lookin as walnut.

 

[3006hollowpoint]

Cool, thanks. And like you said: whether they get rid of it or not is debatable. The gov't doesn't like their own regulations very often

 

[meat hunter]

3006 when you turn 18 you will be good to go to sell the gun if you so choose. Just make sure you have your tinfoil hat on and everything will be ok.

 

[rdl65]

The law says TBI is to destroy your records by close of buisness day, whether or not they do is debatable.

Thats what they HOPE you believe! Now let me TELL you how it REALLY works...

In 1985 my step-brother opened a hunting/fishing shop in the Memphis area. It eventually grew into the largest of its kind in west TN until Bass Pro and the other biggies started coming into the area in the late 90s-early 00s. In 1997 he also opened a store in Jackson, TN as well as a satellite store in the Wolfchase Mall in Cordova a couple of years later. In 2004-2005 he decided he'd had enough of retail and closed the stores.

So when he closed the store in Memphis in 2004 he had EVERY SINGLE form4473/formally known as "the yellow sheets" that had been filled out since the first one in 1985! BY FEDERAL LAW each and EVERY dealer/person/gunsmith that holds a FFL is REQUIRED to maintain EVERY single 4473 EVER collected and that goes for rejects/denied as well. Once the FFL is cancelled via retirement, violation, business sell etc... The BATFE will send an agent to get ALL of those 4473s within 2 weeks of the license expiration! They came with a boxtruck for the 19 year collection of forms at the Memphis store in 2004. And in 2005 an agent from the BATFEs office in Atlanta came up and FILLED a silver Ford Taurus with the 7.5years of forms from his Jackson TN store (I was there and saw it for myself).

THEY KNOW WHO HAS WHAT GUNS as long as you bought them with a 4473 filled out at the time of purchase! THAT is why the BATFE is so hell bent on private gun sales and gunshows, they cant track those as easily.

I've even heard from law enforcement buddies that in some instances a gunowners arsenal information has been obtained prior to any warrant searches or going after someone in their home. Sure "Rufus the crackhead" down in the hood probably never bought any of his "gats" from a licensed FFL. But what about "Suburb Sammy" and his vast collection of hunting guns (legally obtained) that Johhny Law is now worried about because he's behind on his child support, refused to pay the IRS or didnt appear in court on a traffic ticket so the judge issued a warrant to go get him?

SURE the American gunowner can trust the BATFE, just ask Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge, ID or the handful of survivors from the Davidian compound in Waco, TX!!! :sick:
HL

+1 This is the right answer.

 

[mr.big]

they Murdered Randy Weaver and his family in cold blood.

 

[rdl65]

I don't believe they shot Randy Weaver. They killed his son and wife and shot his friend that was there, but the friend survived.

 

[pcrc]

As to BATF getting those records it is my understanding that they destroy them after 30 days. I agree "that is what they want us to believe". But I also go by the theory that cant keep up with what is going on today in the government let alone trying to figure out 17 years worth of back records from just one store. Can you imagine the size of the warehouse that it would take to house all those forms and the man power to organize, store and file.

 

[mr.big]

I don't believe they shot Randy Weaver. They killed his son and wife and shot his friend that was there, but the friend survived.

and you would be correct,,it was worse,,they killed his wife and kid and took him to jail,,

http://reason.com/archives/1993/10/01/a ... singlepage

 

[rdl65]

And the FBI Sniper, (Lon Horiuchi) who killed Weaver's wife while she was holding an infant, was cleared of any wrong charges.

I remember when HS Precision used Lon Horiuchi for an endorsement for their stocks. I remember that didn't set to well with a few in the shooting community. I believe they realized the mistake and quit using him for endorsements.

 

[pcrc]

You give federal employees way too much credit.

 

[huntinman]

The law says TBI is to destroy your records by close of buisness day, whether or not they do is debatable.

Thats what they HOPE you believe! Now let me TELL you how it REALLY works...

In 1985 my step-brother opened a hunting/fishing shop in the Memphis area. It eventually grew into the largest of its kind in west TN until Bass Pro and the other biggies started coming into the area in the late 90s-early 00s. In 1997 he also opened a store in Jackson, TN as well as a satellite store in the Wolfchase Mall in Cordova a couple of years later. In 2004-2005 he decided he'd had enough of retail and closed the stores.

So when he closed the store in Memphis in 2004 he had EVERY SINGLE form4473/formally known as "the yellow sheets" that had been filled out since the first one in 1985! BY FEDERAL LAW each and EVERY dealer/person/gunsmith that holds a FFL is REQUIRED to maintain EVERY single 4473 EVER collected and that goes for rejects/denied as well. Once the FFL is cancelled via retirement, violation, business sell etc... The BATFE will send an agent to get ALL of those 4473s within 2 weeks of the license expiration! They came with a boxtruck for the 19 year collection of forms at the Memphis store in 2004. And in 2005 an agent from the BATFEs office in Atlanta came up and FILLED a silver Ford Taurus with the 7.5years of forms from his Jackson TN store (I was there and saw it for myself).

THEY KNOW WHO HAS WHAT GUNS as long as you bought them with a 4473 filled out at the time of purchase! THAT is why the BATFE is so hell bent on private gun sales and gunshows, they cant track those as easily.

I've even heard from law enforcement buddies that in some instances a gunowners arsenal information has been obtained prior to any warrant searches or going after someone in their home. Sure "Rufus the crackhead" down in the hood probably never bought any of his "gats" from a licensed FFL. But what about "Suburb Sammy" and his vast collection of hunting guns (legally obtained) that Johhny Law is now worried about because he's behind on his child support, refused to pay the IRS or didnt appear in court on a traffic ticket so the judge issued a warrant to go get him?

SURE the American gunowner can trust the BATFE, just ask Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge, ID or the handful of survivors from the Davidian compound in Waco, TX!!! :sick:
HL

Great post HL.

 

[3006hollowpoint]

You give federal employees way too much credit.

please specify federal employees next time. Our armed forces work hard to settle BS Like the waco tx and the idaho deal.
Far as im concerned now, Mossy's stayin in the closet, and should i choose to sell something else, a simple receipt had better be good enough. And a warrant better be had for that receipt, or entrance of my property for either search or seizure of specific areas, items, etc. - otherwise the police are considered armed trespassers.

 

[pcrc]

Calm down, I was talking about your typical paper pusher types that tend to loose more stuff than they actually file and get to things when they are darn good and ready.