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My son bought 3 Deltas last year. 1 is still working. Don't waste your money on Moultrie. Tactacam Reveal XB is the only way to go. I wouldn't take 5 Moultries or Spypoints for one of my Reveal XBs.
 
OP - for under $200, I'd recommend ONE Spartan GoCam 4G LTE (ATT or Verizon), or you could get TWO Reveal X Gen 2.0 (dual carrier, comes with both SIM cards) cameras for a few more dollars.
 
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Unlike many others, I've not been very overall impressed with the Tactacams.
Suspect it's because have been using other makes & models now for years,
and have some basis for comparison.

When you do value comparisons, it's not just about the initial price point.

There is usually a logical reason for "cheap" & "cheaper".
 
Unlike many others, I've not been very overall impressed with the Tactacams.
Suspect it's because have been using other makes & models now for years,
and have some basis for comparison.

When you do value comparisons, it's not just about the initial price point.

There is usually a logical reason for "cheap" & "cheaper".
I've been using other makes and models for years as well and also have a basis for comparison. However, I've never paid over $150 for a camera. The OP said he wanted to stay under $200. I'm sure if you are comparing a $500 camera to a $130 Reveal XB the $500 camera would win. But in the sub $150 camera comparison I've seen nothing that beats the XB. If there's something out there better at the same price point I'll glad switch brands.
 
I run Covert cams also and like them more because I'm able to have them send me a picture without being triggered.
 
I liked spypoints for the price but seems there is something going on in last few weeks/month. i've lost contact with 5 of 6 of my cams. others are having same problems. I wouldn't recommend spypoint to anyone now.
 
I have 6 of the Tactacam Reveal X cams. I really like them and they've been great. I guess if I do have a con on them is that sometimes the pics can be a little blurry when zooming in. But there's the option to make them HD for $5 for 50 pics and if there's a pic worthy enough for HD it's clear as can be.
 
I've been using other makes and models for years as well and also have a basis for comparison. However, I've never paid over $150 for a camera.
Just to be clear, my comments about "for years" was meant here regarding only cell cams,
none of which have been available for $150 or less until fairly recently 🙂

But in the sub $150 camera comparison I've seen nothing that beats the XB.
At least on initial price point, you may very well be correct,
but that has not been my personal experience with Tactacam's $100 cell cam,
once the total cost of using x 2 years became disappointingly apparent.

Cost becomes a very different story when you look at the total costs of operation over say a 2 to 3 year time horizon. Of course, total costs include periodic battery replacements & monthly plan fees, but total costs also include any special trips solely just to check on or service a cam, for whatever reason it stopped working.

The true cost comparison between a more reliable & a less reliable cell cam becomes even more dramatic if you divide the total money spent by the total number of pics transmitted.

For cell cams in particular, absolute reliability x how long before you have to "service" the cams needs to be factored. A single extra trip annually for just the purpose of changing batteries or an SD card can totally negate even a substantial initial price discount. This is where longer battery life and higher SD card capacity becomes worth its weight in gold!

One thing commonly overlooked is a cell cam's programming features & reliability to actually get pictures of game that walks in front of it, then transmit those pics back to you. When this doesn't happen, you're paying for something you're not getting, and it's hard to put a "price" on that loss, as you don't know what you don't know.

I found the Tactacams to have an unacceptable "recovery" rate between triggering "events". This basically means there is a timeframe of so many seconds after the cam is triggered before it again becomes capable of being triggered again. And to compound that problem, the Tactacams would only transmit the 2nd pic of any pic volley (such as when you set your cam to take 2 or 3 pics per triggering event).

There are many times I want to see ALL the pics from a triggering event, and I don't want the cell cam to be unable to trigger a minute later just because it had triggered a minute earlier. This is how you totally miss older bucks following younger bucks.

I'm trying not to write a book here, so I'll just close by saying I've got numerous $200 cell cams that overall "do more", are much more reliable, less costly to operate over the their first 2 years of operation, and have provided important to me pics totally missed by the $100 Tactacams.

That's right, not only have the $200 cell cams provided a lot of pics missed by the $100 Tactacams, but total operational costs for the $200 cell cams has actually been less than for the $100 Tactacams in only 2 years.

Just to be clear, my Tactacam use has been limited to two units, their original $100 models.

Of course, Tactacam's subsequent models have been improved.
But then so have most competitors' subsequent models.

Just saying, there's more to the total costs than the initial price of the cam.
 
I found the Tactacams to have an unacceptable "recovery" rate between triggering "events". This basically means there is a timeframe of so many seconds after the cam is triggered before it again becomes capable of being triggered again. And to compound that problem, the Tactacams would only transmit the 2nd pic of any pic volley (such as when you set your cam to take 2 or 3 pics per triggering event).
I agree with you. These are the only complaints I have about the Tactacams, but they are big issues.
 
I've got numerous $200 cell cams that overall "do more", are much more reliable, less costly to operate over the their first 2 years of operation, and have provided important to me pics totally missed by the $100 Tactacams.

That's right, not only have the $200 cell cams provided a lot of pics missed by the $100 Tactacams, but total operational costs for the $200 cell cams has actually been less than for the $100 Tactacams in only 2 years.
I'd like to know which models these are. It sounds like they might become my camera of choice.
 
I have 6 of the Tactacam Reveal X cams. I really like them and they've been great. I guess if I do have a con on them is that sometimes the pics can be a little blurry when zooming in. But there's the option to make them HD for $5 for 50 pics and if there's a pic worthy enough for HD it's clear as can be.
This mirrors my experience with them as well. The only pics I have criticized are daytime "thumbnail" pics sent to the app (blurry and pixelated when zoomed in), but the HD photo request feature (50 HD photos for $5, does not expire) fixes that. This works for me since 99% of the photos I get on my app are fawns, does and small bucks that I truly have no additional interest in. The handful of good bucks I get, I request an HD photo and can then retrieve SD card if I need more higher quality photos of the three shot burst.
 
True, however, initial price is extremely to most people due to the danger of theft. Nobody wants to put out an expensive camera that may be stolen.
That is a good point.

I commonly use steel lock boxes on mine to minimize this risk,
and like to place them so high, a ladder is needed to service,
eliminating any crime of convenience.
This also makes it "harder" for me to "service" the cams,
meaning long battery life and the ability to utilize 64gb or higher sd cards is important to me.

As to theft issues, many the cell cams now have a built in gps locator.
If someone steals your cam, you may be able to find where it went,
maybe get it back, and/or better yet, maybe prosecute the thief!

So it may be, theft risk is lower with cell cams.
After all, a would-be thief may correctly assume you already have his picture.
 
That is a good point.

I commonly use steel lock boxes on mine to minimize this risk,
and like to place them so high, a ladder is needed to service,
eliminating any crime of convenience.
This also makes it "harder" for me to "service" the cams,
meaning long battery life and the ability to utilize 64gb or higher sd cards is important to me.

As to theft issues, many the cell cams now have a built in gps locator.
If someone steals your cam, you may be able to find where it went,
maybe get it back, and/or better yet, maybe prosecute the thief!

So it may be, theft risk is lower with cell cams.
After all, a would-be thief may correctly assume you already have his picture.
LBL Man which cell cam are you using. Don't mind paying $200 for a really good cam. Thanks.
 
LBL Man which cell cam are you using. Don't mind paying $200 for a really good cam. Thanks.
First, let me say I have zero experience with some brands, limited experience with most, and over the past couple years, my main personal experience has been with Brownings & Ridgetecs, along with a couple Tactacam units. But I have been using cell cams since Covert introduced its first cell cam many years ago.

That said, I have some good friends who are running numerous brands, running the gauntlet from Tactacams to Reconyx. Our combined "fleet" currently includes approximately 250 cell cams. We frequently discuss what is working best for us, and what seems to be the better values. It is not Tactacam for us.

Things are constantly changing, new, better technologies becoming available, and what was best a year or two ago, may not be today, but it may take a couple more years to realize that.

Going back 2 years and beyond, I've gotten my best overall value from the Browning brand. My models include some of their original cell cams (no longer manufactured, but have worked flawlessly, continuously year-round now for over 3 yrs).

The majority of my cell cams now are the Browning Defender Wireless Pro Scout. Most of these have been running continuously now for @ 2 years. Battery life is approximately twice that of the original Tactacam, and they use 8 AAs compared to 12 AAs with the Tactacam. You should only use lithium batteries with cell cams, and battery replacement cost can be one of your more significant ongoing expenses beyond the purchase price, as is a monthly (or yearly) service charge from the cam's manufacturer.

This particular Browning model is widely available and typically priced at $199.99.
https://www.trailcampro.com/product...ss-pro-scout-at-t?_pos=3&_fid=652b260f4&_ss=c
These Browning models are comparatively feature-rich with fast recovery times between triggering events. They will accept up to 512gb sd cards (meaning you should never fill them even if you go over a year between visiting the cam sites). Unless I run video mode, I can typically go a year without filling a 64 gb card. Running video means you will have to replace batteries more often (no matter the brand/model), and you can quickly fill a 32gb card (the maximum size that can be used with Tactacam).

By the way, I do not recommend purchasing ANY "new" model of ANY brand until those new offerings have been thoroughly and scientifically reviewed by some real independent experts in comparing trail cams. Don't believe the advertisements. In 2021, Browning came out with a new model. It didn't meet quality control expectations, and I'm glad I didn't buy any those "new" units. Same can be said about many other brands & "new" models.

I'm sure my thoughts will change over time, but at least in the coming months, the only other brand/model I plan to add more are the Ridgetec Lookouts. They cost a little more than the above mentioned Brownings, but are far more feature-rich. I've been running 3 of these now for coming on 2 years. They are the closest thing to a Reconyx I've used.

https://www.trailcampro.com/products/ridgetec-lookout-4g-lte
This Ridgetec is both a higher performing & more feature rich cell cam than the Browning Defender Pro Scout. I suspect that is why battery life isn't as good, but looks like I'm getting approximately 6 months of everything I want from them per battery change.

Both the Brownings & the Ridgetecs can send pics (and pic notices) simultaneously to BOTH your email & your cell phone numbers.

Tactacam will only send pics to your smart phone (not your email address). Although I do review lots of pics initially on a smart phone, my preference is on the big screen of a computer. Can't easily do that with Tactacam. This alone is a big reason we don't like Tactacams, as we need to inventory & maintain pics long-term on a computer. That's a more cumbersome task when you can only initially receive them on your smart phone.

Note: Both Tactacam & other brands do save all pics taken on their sd cards. It's just that if I have to go retrieve the sd cards to easily view the pics on a large computer screen, that defeats part of the reasoning of going cellular in the first place.
 
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Bought the Reveal X in spring 2021 and it worked okay. Biggest complaint is false triggers with it, had to set sensitivity level to lowest setting (1) to keep from getting them even on plots. Hard time finding a place to get more than 1 bar as well.

Got an XB last week & it seems to be a better cam. With pic size set to 24mp the pictures sent to phone are much better than the X, both night & day. I checked it at places where the X only gets 1 bar & the XB is getting 3 bars in same spot. Makes me wonder how the dual antenna model works? May try one of them next.
 
I gotta' say, I've become a huge fan of Trailcampro's website, not only for purchasing cameras but very honest reviews.
 
I gotta' say, I've become a huge fan of Trailcampro's website, not only for purchasing cameras but very honest reviews.
Same here.
Their reviews are valid scientific comparisons, and they tell it like it is. I think I discovered them not too long after we both discovered the Cuddeback No Flash cams were over-priced junk, and Trailcampro may have been the only seller letting customers know the truth.

Ever since their war with Cuddeback over their reviews, I've been a Trailcampro fan.

About the only time I don't buy cams from them is when I need more of a certain model, and they are out of stock.

I know you don't use the steel boxes, but theirs are significantly superior to those sold by most trail cam manufacturers. By contrast, the steel boxes sold by both Browning & Tactacam are junk.
 
I know you don't use the steel boxes, but theirs are significantly superior to those sold by most trail cam manufacturers. By contrast, the steel boxes sold by both Browning & Tactacam are junk.
Very interesting. I didn't know that. I will pass that info on to my clients.
 
I have used Moultrie for the past 5-6 years, and while I have had a few hiccups with some of them, for the most part, I've been satisfied. However, they seem to be in a bit of a slump right now on their quality. Just ordered a new Delta Base -arrived last week. I put it up today. I noticed a rather loud, obnoxious clicking noise' soon after it takes a pic. It last for 10-20 seconds. With the acute hearing ability of a whitetail deer, there is no way they will hang around for a second pic. no idea why it make this noise and how it is corrected. This is not normal as I have another Base and it does not make that noise. This new one is apparently faulty. So, here we go with yet another exchange. 😩
 
Very interesting. I didn't know that. I will pass that info on to my clients.
IMO, the best engineered and thought out security boxes available are made by Camlockbox. They make them for just about every trail cam made. Trailcam Pro may carry them, I'm not sure. They look very similar.
 

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