Lawrence county harvest total 2006-2015

[FARMTOFIELD]

I know I've posted this before, but just a friendly reminder of what could happen. It still makes me sick to think about it. 2006we had several gobblers on our place, 2007 we had 1.

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

This graph did not include wma kills, in 2018 not including wma Lawrence was at 190

 

[woodsman04]

I don't know what to say other than that it's bad.


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[th88]

Wayne hit its lowest this year at 302.

 

[AT Hiker]

This is so crazy to me and what's even crazier is that some people think Its no big deal and do not want to be proactive in other parts of the state. Whatever is happening is surely not bounded by arbitrary county lines.


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[poorhunter]

This is so crazy to me and what's even crazier is that some people think Its no big deal and do not want to be proactive in other parts of the state. Whatever is happening is surely not bounded by arbitrary county lines.


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Yep. So many on this site on other threads just shrug it off and say "I've got tons of birds!" "More gobbling than ever" . I sincerely hope their places don't end up like this.

 

[cowhunter71]

I don't feel a thing. Sounds like you boys better find you a WMA and sharpen up on your "pressured" turkey hunting skills. There may not be tons of them and they may not always blow the woods down, but there will always be a few there for those willing to actually "hunt" them

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

I don't feel a thing. Sounds like you boys better find you a WMA and sharpen up on your "pressured" turkey hunting skills. There may not be tons of them and they may not always blow the woods down, but there will always be a few there for those willing to actually "hunt" them

Been doing it for 10+ years now, I have to drive at least an hour to find birds to hunt. If those numbers don't alarm you, regardless if you hunt in that area or not, you are part of the problem...

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

I don't feel a thing. Sounds like you boys better find you a WMA and sharpen up on your "pressured" turkey hunting skills. There may not be tons of them and they may not always blow the woods down, but there will always be a few there for those willing to actually "hunt" them

The local wma had an earth shattering 13 Turkey's taken off of it lol, I've had more success hunting wmas, than I ever had hunting my own private ground and these birds get messed with alot more than those big tracts out east

 

[cowhunter71]

Nope, still don't feel a thing and I can assure you, I'm not part of your problem.

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

Nope, still don't feel a thing and I can assure you, I'm not part of your problem.

I'm not part of the limit dropper, and shorter season crowd. There is a bigger problem at play here, and hunting is not the problem however you spin it. Our farm went from 15 longbeards in the spring of 2006, in the spring of 2007, there was 1there were 2 in 2008. It's not over harvest, hatch or predators or anything to do with season length or timeframe , but I don't know what it is. None of those problems kill 1000's of birds in a years time.

With all that said if you honestly do not care about a failing species, that you claim to love, regardless of where, you genuinely are part of the problem. As of right now it's only 3 or 4 counties, but it could happen anywhere.

I hope it don't, I don't want anyone to have to go through it, anywhere in the country. I font want you or anyone else on this forum or anywhere in the state to have to see it, but I cannot fathom anyone that claims to love the species not be concerned about it whether your 30 miles away or 300

 

[cowhunter71]

Some places just ain't meant to have turkeys, or turkey hunters for that matter. Seems like you'll be ok though. An hour ain't bad to have to drive to turkey hunt. Hunting those pressured Gobblers will make you a better turkey hunter anyway. That way, when all the "pets" have been killed out, you will still be able to kill turkeys.

 

[volsrock]

Nope, still don't feel a thing and I can assure you, I'm not part of your problem.

Some places just ain't meant to have turkeys, or turkey hunters for that matter. Seems like you'll be ok though. An hour ain't bad to have to drive to turkey hunt. Hunting those pressured Gobblers will make you a better turkey hunter anyway. That way, when all the "pets" have been killed out, you will still be able to kill turkeys.

I don't feel a thing. Sounds like you boys better find you a WMA and sharpen up on your "pressured" turkey hunting skills. There may not be tons of them and they may not always blow the woods down, but there will always be a few there for those willing to actually "hunt" them

if only we all could be bad a@@ turkey hunters like u, i assure u if u lived here u would be singing a different tune

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

I don't wanna be a bad @$$ I just wanna be able to here birds gobble from my porch again

 

[cowhunter71]

Nope, still don't feel a thing and I can assure you, I'm not part of your problem.

Some places just ain't meant to have turkeys, or turkey hunters for that matter. Seems like you'll be ok though. An hour ain't bad to have to drive to turkey hunt. Hunting those pressured Gobblers will make you a better turkey hunter anyway. That way, when all the "pets" have been killed out, you will still be able to kill turkeys.

I don't feel a thing. Sounds like you boys better find you a WMA and sharpen up on your "pressured" turkey hunting skills. There may not be tons of them and they may not always blow the woods down, but there will always be a few there for those willing to actually "hunt" them

if only we all could be bad a@@ turkey hunters like u, i assure u if u lived here u would be singing a different tune

Nothing bada## about me. I can assure you of one thing though. If I did live there, I would have done my best to have had my name next to one or two of those 13 Gobblers checked in off that "local" WMA.

 

[ImThere]

Some places just ain't meant to have turkeys, or turkey hunters for that matter. Seems like you'll be ok though. An hour ain't bad to have to drive to turkey hunt. Hunting those pressured Gobblers will make you a better turkey hunter anyway. That way, when all the "pets" have been killed out, you will still be able to kill turkeys.

It's really hard to take you seriously.


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[cowhunter71]

Some places just ain't meant to have turkeys, or turkey hunters for that matter. Seems like you'll be ok though. An hour ain't bad to have to drive to turkey hunt. Hunting those pressured Gobblers will make you a better turkey hunter anyway. That way, when all the "pets" have been killed out, you will still be able to kill turkeys.

It's really hard to take you seriously.


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Then don't. I surely don't take you serious, at least as a turkey hunter

 

[volsrock]

I don't wanna be a bad @$$ I just wanna be able to here birds gobble from my porch again

exactly. heck im lucky to see a lonely hen wonder thru from time to time.

 

[bigasports]

Some places just ain't meant to have turkeys, or turkey hunters for that matter. Seems like you'll be ok though. An hour ain't bad to have to drive to turkey hunt. Hunting those pressured Gobblers will make you a better turkey hunter anyway. That way, when all the "pets" have been killed out, you will still be able to kill turkeys.

It's really hard to take you seriously.


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Then don't. I surely don't take you serious, at least as a turkey hunter

ImThere, Rockhound, and others....
Just read and move on & take stupid comments as a grain of salt. He's just trying to stir the pot. He doesn't have the knowledge/sense to bring any real validity to this topic.

 

[RobbyW]

Wow just wow.

 

[cowhunter71]

I just enjoy hearing all you private land "pet" killers fluffy kitten about where all your turkeys have went, thats all Keep feeding them corn boys, but you better make sure you put out more than your neighbors

 

[Southern Sportsman]

Some places just ain't meant to have turkeys, or turkey hunters for that matter. Seems like you'll be ok though. An hour ain't bad to have to drive to turkey hunt. Hunting those pressured Gobblers will make you a better turkey hunter anyway. That way, when all the "pets" have been killed out, you will still be able to kill turkeys.

Never had any reason to dislike you. If I remember correctly, you've spent a lot of your turkey hunting life killing public land osceolas, which is probably the hardest of all the turkeys to kill, so hats off. But what the hell would justify you attacking people personally and their abilities as hunters for simply posting factual information about a precipitous drop in turkey numbers where there were tons of turkeys? I just cant follow your logic.

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

Some places just ain't meant to have turkeys, or turkey hunters for that matter. Seems like you'll be ok though. An hour ain't bad to have to drive to turkey hunt. Hunting those pressured Gobblers will make you a better turkey hunter anyway. That way, when all the "pets" have been killed out, you will still be able to kill turkeys.

Never had any reason to dislike you. If I remember correctly, you've spent a lot of your turkey hunting life killing public land osceolas, which is probably the hardest of all the turkeys to kill, so hats off. But what the hell would justify you attacking people personally and their abilities as hunters for simply posting factual information about a precipitous drop in turkey numbers where there were tons of turkeys? I just cant follow your logic.

That's my train of thought, I just simply do not understand his point.

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

I just enjoy hearing all you private land "pet" killers fluffy kitten about where all your turkeys have went, thats all Keep feeding them corn boys, but you better make sure you put out more than your neighbors

No Turkey's here at all period, but when they were, they sure as hell weren't pets. I find it easier to kill Turkey's on public land than the Turkey's we used to have, and I don't pour out no damn corn. It don't bother me one bit to hunt public land, but I so wish we had birds close to home again.

Not sure what brought on the smart ass attitude toward me for posting a graph

 

[cowhunter71]

I actually respect you for choosing to hunt public ground. If they were as wary as you said they were, I'm sure there are still "a few" around Like i said earlier, stick with the public ground Gobblers, they will surely hone your skills. Besides, no self respecting turkey hunter would kill "his own" turkeys anyways

 

[elknturkey]

I can vouch for the lower numbers in the far northeast part of the state on public. I don't know the reason. Didn't even see them riding by certain farms that I would see em on 9 out of 10 times cause they don't get hunted. All I know is heard 1 bird in 22 days of hunting /listening in 3 different counties. It's been 15+ years since I've heard multiple birds from one spot but always have able to locate a few every year before the season except this one. Seems the downward trend started 5 years ago and has got worse every year.

My neighbor owns a little over 300 acres behind me that I can hunt but don't. I could literally fill my tags every year by walking off the back porch. Neither of us have even seen or heard a turkey since last summer and it doesn't get hunted.

I've been planning my out of state trips for next year recently and found an article online ( maybe outdoor life) that gave the 2018 turkey forecast for every state and each one had a little statement from that states biologist about the population and recommended areas. Dang near every biologist stated a decline in population. Maybe a half dozen said to be stable and a handful were on an increase.

Seems to be most of the states had a lot more birds in the 80s thru till about early 2000 and now most have a decline. I don't see weather being the culprit for the whole country. Populations ebb and flow but we've been ebbing a long time. I long for the days when I could hear 10+ from one spot. Be happy with 2 tho [emoji1]

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[FARMTOFIELD]

I actually respect you for choosing to hunt public ground. If they were as wary as you said they were, I'm sure there are still "a few" around Like i said earlier, stick with the public ground Gobblers, they will surely hone your skills. Besides, no self respecting turkey hunter would kill "his own" turkeys anyways

Nope haven't seen a bird nor sign of a bird here in 2 yrs, there were 7 male birds wintering on the neighboring property last fall 3 longbeards and 4 jakes or something to that nature. 1 they know got killed in February, 3 of them got killed over bait about a mile away opening week this year, and 3 of them have simply vanished. The u.t. guy has driven for miles trying to locate a signal off of the tracking collars with no luck. So 100% of those birds are gone in 1 yrs time. There may be 1 a year that would be huntable, but to try to kill a bird where there aren't any would be pure ignorance. If we had alot of birds, you dang right I'd hunt them, but we will never see huntable numbers again.

 

[Roost 1]

I'd say if they had transmitters and went off the grid, they were poached. So, that means 6 were poached including the ones killed over bait. I can see a big part of the problem.

 

[volsrock]

Just read and move on & take stupid comments as a grain of salt. He's just trying to stir the pot. He doesn't have the knowledge/sense to bring any real validity to this topic.[/quote]
yep u cant fix stupid. sounds like jealously to me. maybe if he owned any land that had turkeys he'd understand

 

[volsrock]

I just enjoy hearing all you private land "pet" killers fluffy kitten about where all your turkeys have went, thats all Keep feeding them corn boys, but you better make sure you put out more than your neighbors

maybe one day u will own ur own land and u will understand. until then dont worry bout what us private land owners think or do.