It finally happened, need advice guys! (11/8/18 update)

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JAY B

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We all read stories year after year about bad/misplaced shots. I know as a bowhunter, like it or not that the longer I hunted it was bound to happen to me at some point and unfortunately it did. At 7pm yesterday my target buck came down the trail and presented my a 35 yard nearly broadside shot. I took the shot and everything felt great as far as mechanics go, but I watched my lighted nock go a few inches to the right and a few inches higher than I had planned. From what I could tell the arrow hit him a little high towards the rear of the shoulder. The buck took off and the arrow dropped out after about 10 yards. Got down immediately and recovered my arrow which turned out to be 3/4 of an arrow. There ended up being 5 3/4" broke off of part I recovered, it had blood probably 3-4" up the shaft no more than that, also had meat in the broken end of the shaft. After looking for 2 hours in the from the point of impact to around 40 yards in the direction he ran I did not locate a single drop of blood. I shoot a QAD Exodus fixed blade broadhead, 70 lb pull and this is the first deer out of probably 30 with this setup that I have not had a pass through (even on a couple of shoulder shots). I feel as if I rushed and pulled the shot and I feel terrible about it. I did not want to push him last night so I didn't go any further than that immediate area searching for blood. I plan on going in this eve after work to search, looking for any advice an/or experience anyone can offer up. Please nothing negative as far as shot placement as I already know its my responsibility as a hunter to make a clean ethical kill , which I did not do and I feel awful for it! Thanks in advance to all!

UPDATE—
Went and pulled cards out of the 6 cameras I am running on this small place and there he was, last Friday eve! When his pic popped up it was probably one of the happier moments of my life and I am not exaggerating! Even trying not to , I have thought about this buck every day just wandering what happened to him , and to know he is alive is a huge burden off my shoulders. Even if I never get another pic or see him again at least I know! With all that said , the lump on his left shoulder leaves me with a lot of questions as to what it is , that's close to where the arrow went in except it went in his right shoulder. And also noticed that to be early November he does not look the least bit thicker , thinking he may have laid up and recovered and not been eating as much . Any thoughts?
 

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Re: It finally happened, need advice guys!

Considering the above, I would have backed out last night, just like you.
Hopefully, you'll find him when you get back.
Wish you could have gone this morning instead of this evening.
 
Re: It finally happened, need advice guys!

Not a whole lot to go on, but sometimes they won't bleed for a while on a high shot. Depending on just how high, and how much forward of the "sweet spot" the shot is, I'd say the likelihood of a dead deer is high, but just how far out is still the question. You may have to start a grid search, but I'd try to venture out in the direction he traveled as far as I was confident that he ran, looking for blood. Good luck!
 
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Did you recover your broadhead? Best I can tell, you did not. It sounds as if you may have hit the dreaded shoulder blade (scapula) that can be a show stopper, as far as penetration, good blood trails, and recovery goes. Regardless, if it were me, I would get as much help as I could, possibly a dog, and complete a grid search of sorts in the area you last saw him run. Best of luck, hope you can find him this evening.

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Andy S.":6flf23rs said:
Did you recover your broadhead? Best I can tell, you did not. It sounds as if you may have hit the dreaded shoulder blade (scapula) that can be a show stopper, as far as penetration, good blood trails, and recovery goes. Regardless, if it were me, I would get as much help as I could, possibly a dog, and complete a grid search of sorts in the area you last saw him run. Best of luck, hope you can find him this evening.

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Yeah how high and back is the major question mark for me... Good luck on finding him.
 
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Re: It finally happened, need advice guys!

Sounds like arrow was broken from him moving the shoulder blade and the broadhead and length of shaft is still inside the deer. This could cause him to lay down fairly quickly or the more he moves around the more damage the broadhead does. I would ease off in the direction he went slowly for a ways as he could just be laid up...
 
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hitek7":2kj42ef0 said:
Sounds like arrow was broken from him moving the shoulder blade and the broadhead and length of shaft is still inside the deer. This could cause him to lay down fairly quickly or the more he moves around the more damage the broadhead does. I would ease off in the direction he went slowly for a ways as he could just be laid up...

This is what I was thinking. The first deer I killed with a bow, I must have clipped the shoulder blade. I got about 8 inches of penetration and the arrow broke. The arrow due to bouncing off the shoulder blade, bounced inward almost like bouncing a ball off a goal post and in. It hit her lungs and she piled up within 80 yds, but there was hardly any blood until close to where she died. I just kept walking down the trail thinking she wouldn't leave it, as it was in a thicket. Sure enough I found her and when I opened her up I luckily found my broad head without cutting myself.

As Andy said, I would also find a dog to go back with.
 
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TreyB":32ien8ga said:
Andy S.":32ien8ga said:
Did you recover your broadhead? Best I can tell, you did not. It sounds as if you may have hit the dreaded shoulder blade (scapula) that can be a show stopper, as far as penetration, good blood trails, and recovery goes. Regardless, if it were me, I would get as much help as I could, possibly a dog, and complete a grid search of sorts in the area you last saw him run. Best of luck, hope you can find him this evening.

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Yeah how high and back is the major question mark for me... Good luck on finding him.
Arrow went in lower area of shoulder blade as pictured I feel like! And I am assuming broadhead and remainder of shaft are inside deer
 
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JAY B":mqsxpy00 said:
Arrow went in lower area of shoulder blade as pictured I feel like! And I am assuming broadhead and remainder of shaft are inside deer......
Very believable considering this statement;......."QAD Exodus fixed blade broadhead, 70 lb pull and this is the first deer out of probably 30 with this setup that I have not had a pass through."

The scapula, even on smaller does, will stop some arrows from passing through. Keep us posted on your recovery efforts, hope you find him.
 
Re: It finally happened, need advice guys!

Hopefully after expanding your grid search you'll recover your buck. With only an entrance hole I can understand why he didn't leave much of a blood trail. Hope you find him.
 
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I was hoping to see a picture of a dead deer here when I checked in tonight.
 
Re: It finally happened, need advice guys!

Had similar experience on a buck with a slight quarter to shot. Arrow broke off with head inside not much blood for about 30 yds. I recovered him in a creek bed and upon field dressing him I found the several small pieces of arrow and the rage head in his back loin area. So keep looking cause I think there is a good chance he dead.
 
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Ok , unfortunately , after a 3 hr grid search with 2 others covering a lot of ground we didn't find anything. I am going to assume the best and that he is still walking. I plan on moving a couple of cameras deeper into the bedding area for the next few weeks in hopes of getting a pic of him alive which would absolutely take a burden off my shoulders! Want to say thanks to all for the advice and well wishes. Maybe, just maybe he is walking and I will meet up again with the largest buck I have ever encountered! Thanks Again!
 
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Did you consider getting a tracking dog? A good dog on a deer trail is an amazing thing to watch.
 
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Claims Rep.":2nxpuip7 said:
Did you consider getting a tracking dog? A good dog on a deer trail is an amazing thing to watch.
We could not locate a single drop of blood other than what was on the broken shaft , if there isn't any blood and the dog went off just deer scent it could go anywhere considering the amount deer in that area I would think , I may be wrong as I am not familiar with tracking dogs at all .
 
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I would like to point out that I would have still been doing the grid search at midnight if the property laid differently! It is basically a 20 acre peninsula and we covered all of it as well as walked every bank!
 
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JAY B":1qx0w352 said:
Claims Rep.":1qx0w352 said:
Did you consider getting a tracking dog? A good dog on a deer trail is an amazing thing to watch.
We could not locate a single drop of blood other than what was on the broken shaft , if there isn't any blood and the dog went off just deer scent it could go anywhere considering the amount deer in that area I would think , I may be wrong as I am not familiar with tracking dogs at all .



I think a tracking dog picks up that certain deer scent and stays on that.
 
looks like he is out during daylight. I would guess you might get another shot. I hope you do and if so, you can investigate that lump. Be careful gutting him also. I would bet the broad head is inside of him.
 
12-13 pts? What a heartbreaker but like you, I'm sure glad to know he survived. I'd say the lump very well could be the broadhead? Hard to imagine that NOT being a kill shot. Good luck with him. If he survives, that rack will probably be funky next year lol


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Sounds like you hit the meaty part of him.Sometimes they will grab the arrow with there mouth and pull it out, the broad head might not be in him.I would bet that he lives.
 
My guess is that the broadhead is stuck in the opposite side shoulder blade, and that is the lump you are seeing in the pics. I guess your shot missed just above the lungs. Hopefully you will get another chance at him this season! Good luck! That sure is a great buck!
 

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