I realized something today while checking the zero of my muzzleloader.My first shot was off just a tad and I was gonna make an adjustment,but figured I'd take another shot to double check,and took the shot and it was still on..SO while I was trying to figure out if I had pulled the shot or what on the first shot to cause it to be off,I realized,i had left the ramrod out on the first shot and put it back in my ML on the second shot..I don't know if this goes for all muzzleloaders or not,but mine definatly shoots different when the ramrod is out of the gun,as opposed to when it is in the gun..So my ML is zeroed with the ramrod in,you take the ramrod out,and it shoots just a little off to the right..