Huepel to Oklahoma.
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LOL, not a chance!
"I don't think people fully realize how important Josh Heupel was to the University of Oklahoma," Leach said. "I don't think people realize how delicate the balance was, because if this goes into the hands of somebody who can't get it done, obviously there's no national championship. … He was critical. Probably bigger than he even realizes or thinks about."
Heupel's playing career brought Oklahoma back to the top. His nine-year coaching tenure under Stoops, as quarterbacks coach and then offensive coordinator, helped maintain excellence. His firing after the 2014 season sent his career – which was on track to succeed Stoops – sideways at age 36.
"Broke my heart when that happened," Burcham said. "I'm an unconditional fan of Josh and Coach Stoops."
Stoops, who did not respond to a request for comment, wrote in his 2019 memoir that firing Heupel "was the worst day of my 18 years as the head coach at OU."
Mark Mangino, who succeeded Leach as offensive coordinator in 2000, was struck by how matter-of-fact Heupel was about his dismissal as a reality of the profession and how positive he was about his path from Oklahoma. Not that Heupel wasn't hurt.
"If you go back and study it, we played two freshman quarterbacks in back-to-back years," Heupel said of OU's 2013-14 offensive dip. "We were 10th in the country in scoring, nobody had had fewer plays than we had that was in the top 10. … We got beat by Clemson, the No. 1 defense in the country. We got beat up pretty good; we were battered going into the game."
Marshall, his former teammate who remains a close friend, wasn't surprised by Heupel's resilience. "Those were dark times, but that's a testament to Josh as a person, and that's what I'm more proud of than anything," he said. "He stuck to his guns, his coaching style, his system. Now look at him."
"I don't think people fully realize how important Josh Heupel was to the University of Oklahoma," Leach said. "I don't think people realize how delicate the balance was, because if this goes into the hands of somebody who can't get it done, obviously there's no national championship. … He was critical. Probably bigger than he even realizes or thinks about."
Heupel's playing career brought Oklahoma back to the top. His nine-year coaching tenure under Stoops, as quarterbacks coach and then offensive coordinator, helped maintain excellence. His firing after the 2014 season sent his career – which was on track to succeed Stoops – sideways at age 36.
"Broke my heart when that happened," Burcham said. "I'm an unconditional fan of Josh and Coach Stoops."
Stoops, who did not respond to a request for comment, wrote in his 2019 memoir that firing Heupel "was the worst day of my 18 years as the head coach at OU."
Mark Mangino, who succeeded Leach as offensive coordinator in 2000, was struck by how matter-of-fact Heupel was about his dismissal as a reality of the profession and how positive he was about his path from Oklahoma. Not that Heupel wasn't hurt.
"If you go back and study it, we played two freshman quarterbacks in back-to-back years," Heupel said of OU's 2013-14 offensive dip. "We were 10th in the country in scoring, nobody had had fewer plays than we had that was in the top 10. … We got beat by Clemson, the No. 1 defense in the country. We got beat up pretty good; we were battered going into the game."
Marshall, his former teammate who remains a close friend, wasn't surprised by Heupel's resilience. "Those were dark times, but that's a testament to Josh as a person, and that's what I'm more proud of than anything," he said. "He stuck to his guns, his coaching style, his system. Now look at him."
bobbuck
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They will be coming for him eventually. If not this year next. He may not leave but they will be coming.
PillsburyDoughboy
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I think this is a distinct possibility . Of course he is going to say he is happy at tn and of course he is going to do the best job he can possibly do while he is there. That way the offer he gets will be that much better. If and when that day comes it will be crazier than Kiffin leaving I suspect.
THEdonkey0515
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Why would anyone want to jump to a worse team that's joining the same conference ? His not gonna get better players at OK then he can get at UT He would have to go though the same teams to win. Bama, UGA, Florida, LSU ect.... unless he really just does love OK still and can't wait to go back home. I just don't see that.
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PillsburyDoughboy
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Apply the same sort of logic some of the guys here try to apply about this being a tn board. He is a OK boy. He played for the Sooners. He is a Sooner. Not a vol.
We've got to get him some orange pants quickly!
No sir, Heuple IS a VOL.
Because Oklahoma is not home. He was born and raised in South Dakota and went to juco in Utah. He transferred in to Oklahoma as a player and was fired as a coach.
bobbuck
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He also was an All American and won a National Championship playing for Oklahoma. I hope he stays but they definitely will come calling.
You would think someone would know these facts before they start making predictions, but some people like to talk out of their
Isn't it crazy that having "his" team at the top of the college football world for years isn't enough for the bammer troll? The minute our team starts having a little success he has to try to bust our bubble by convincing us our coach is leaving. This answers my question about why the 4 bammer trolls come here instead of an alabama forum. It's not about alabama or Tennessee or even college football. It's about trolling.
THEdonkey0515
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I knew he wasn't born in Oklahoma. I was referring home to the place he played ball and won a NC and a Heisman. Payton was born in New Orleans, I would take a guess he has said Knoxville is home at some point
So you are saying Saban is going to leave bammer for Kent State?
I should be tied to the whipping postI hope you're happy!
I bet he stays at UT, if the path keeps going the way it's going he may very well get us a national championship in the next few years. Which would be the first as a head coach, not to mention UT isn't afraid the throw money at good coaches if he left it for sure wouldn't be for money
I wasn't referring to you. I was talking about bammer troll.
Exactly. Money is no object at UT.
Them saying Oklahoma is coming after him is no different than every vol fan saying saban has lost it when bama loses a gam or doesn't win the NC. Just be happy UT is relevant enough to actually talk about. Saturday is gonna be tough. And get tougher the longer he stays. I personally would love to see him go and y'all get another "brick by brick" coach
PillsburyDoughboy
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I wish I had a $1 for every moron that said it's going to be Sabans last year because of his trun over in staff, he lost a championship, did not make the playoffs, lost a game during the regular season insert any excuse. I would have lots of excess play money.Them saying Oklahoma is coming after him is no different than every vol fan saying saban has lost it when bama loses a gam or doesn't win the NC. Just be happy UT is relevant enough to actually talk about. Saturday is gonna be tough. And get tougher the longer he stays. I personally would love to see him go and y'all get another "brick by brick" coach
THEdonkey0515
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Venables is 6 weeks into a 6 year $45 million deal in a complete rebuild. Let's fire that guy.
That's gonna want someone else to run to OK for sure.
That's gonna want someone else to run to OK for sure.
I don't know if he goes or not. I will say OK is paying $2M more for their coach. Now here is the part that's going to make a few heads blow up. I don't think TN is a top 10 coaching job but Ok is. I searched for a single National publication that said it was but couldn't find one.
Look at recent history. TN Last top 10 finish was 2001
Oklahoma has finished in the top 10 8 years in a row.
Look at recent history. TN Last top 10 finish was 2001
Oklahoma has finished in the top 10 8 years in a row.
And what conference do they play in
?If he leaves, he leaves. I'd thank him for making us relevant again and wish him well.
But, I think he'd stay just like Saban stayed at Bama to enjoy his success of rebuilding a traditional power. I'd like to know how much money Texas dangled in front of him a few years ago. Also, Was Bama a top 10 job when he took over
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TITANSFAN2104
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Actually he was not very happy with the firing and hasnt spoken to Stoops since. Couple that with the fact he and Danny White are very close and i dont see Coach jumping ship even for oklahoma. Anything is possible But the same boosters that wanted him fired are the same ones still there !
Saban to lsu
THEdonkey0515
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Texas would be in most people's top 10 and they haven't done anything in 14 years.
Miami has one double digit win season since 04' its on top 10 list.
Most the teams top of that list have been down. Uf has as many 6 or less win seasons then they do 10 win seasons over the last decade. It's still considered a top 5 job
I would have Tennessee top 15 and Oklahoma 10 or 9 don't think it's a huge Gap. OK also had a way easier path in the Big 12 then UT ever did playing in the SEC. That is about to change.
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Actually he's not an 'OK boy'.
Huepel was born & raised in Aberdeen S. Dakota.
Played HS football at Aberdeen Central High, was SD player of the year his senior yr.
Played 2 years of college ball before even going to Oklahoma.
Weber St. then Snow College in Utah.
Only played 2 yrs in OK.
Yeah he did great at OK, but he's NOT an "Oklahoma boy".
At this point, Heupel leaving TN would be akin to the fallout of the stock market crash of the 20s.
