Handi rifle problem

[TheAirMan]

A friend has a NEF Handi .223. The gun will not chocolate chip cookie unless it is pointed up. He is also having fail to fire issues. Sometimes it will fire, other times just dent the primer. I did a couple quick google searches and this seems like it might be a common thing. However, no one really seems to have a fix. Has anyone on here had this problem or know the solution?


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[Jcalder]

It sounds like an issue with the firing pin. Maybe it's getting in a bind. I have a cva hunter and it won't chocolate chip cookie unless I close it fairly hard. But with your friends that's denting a primer and it doesn't fire sounds like the pin isn't hitting hard. It could be a little short too


Big or small, kill em all

 

[Gravey]

I used to have one in 223 and just sold one in 243 today and never had a problem like that or any others.

 

[260rem]

Go to graybeard outdoors site they talk about Handi rifles all the time

 

[Atchman2]

Clean and lubricate the area where the firing pin comes out. When I am out is KS shooting prairie dogs with mine, it gets a lot of fouling around the firing pin. Clean it good and put some Break Free on it. Worth a try.

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[mike243]

sounds like the striker bar isn't coming up to be hit with the hammer. may be junked up or broken.

 

[Atchman2]

Amen to that website they are silly crazy about Handy Rifles. I have got to admit my heavy barrel .223 is VERY accurate.

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[Deer Assassin]

never had an issue with any

grey beards .com

 

[KPH]

Go to graybeard outdoors site they talk about Handi rifles all the time

The only thing bad about the people on handy rifles on graybeard is if you say something they don't like is they will jump all over you. Most of the time you ask a question about repairing one if you are not a realer you will be told to do a search and not answer your question.

 

[Hunter 257W]

The problem with not cocking unless it's pointed up makes me think a spring is broke inside. Gravity is having to do the job of the broke spring by holding the gun a certain way. I would expect the problem to be the trigger return spring or something involved in engaging the trigger to the hammer. Also could be so dirty that friction is beyond what the spring can oppose.

I'm going from memory here but aren't all the pins through the receiver on those rifles slightly tapered? And as such, they should always be driven out through the larger hole side of the receiver? Seems that is right and that I did that when taking mine apart several years back.

 

[rukiddin]

Not sure about the hammer cocking but had a handi rifle in 35 whelen that did the same with the ftf or barely hitting the primer. Took it to a gunsmith and headspacing was too long. Called h&r and they said get the gunsmith to send them a letter stating the problem and they would make it right. I did and they offered me another 35 whelen or caliber of my choice. I was disappointed in the gun but very pleased with their customer service.

 

[Hunter 257W]

I recalled another point regarding my rifle and failures to fire. Mine is the NEF muzzle loader but the same design gun. Anyway, I found that the problem causing my inconsistent ignition issue was that the firing pin didn't come out of the frame/breech far enough. It only protruded about .017. My cousin has an identical rifle and his firing pin had .035 protrusion from the frame. You could look at the primers from the two guns and tell why one would fire with 100% certainty(his) while mine mis-fired a lot. The way I fixed it was to grind about .015 off the face of the hammer so that the step on the hammer that contacts the firing pin could come forward that same amount(.015) which in turn pushed the firing pin out of the frame about the same amount as the "good" gun. I've never had a problem since with failing to fire.