Current Quota Hunt Priority Point Status for those curious

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Re: Current Quota Hunt Priority Point Status for those curio

Good info, thanks for sharing.

docpoco":3kez4qgp said:
They did tell me that hunters drawn this year had between 10-12 points.
I suspect this was for the December rut hunt, correct?

I "think" there were some drawn for the October PI buck hunt that had less than 10, but I could be mistaken.
 
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Thanks for sharing! We sit at 11 points. The last couple of years we have put in with my son to make sure we don't get drawn for the PI Dec buck hunt. We may hold out another couple of years just to see if it changes to the better. I would like to see a few years without flooding and good soybean plantings before going back.
 
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Every time i see this thread I cringe a little. It just serves as a painful reminder that I didn't understand the system, and didn't do the research to learn and understand I would have never been drawn. I lost 2 pts because of that and now sit at 7.

685 people firmly ahead of me and 301 more in my group..... :bash: :bash:
 
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I cannot believe a hunt with an insanely low success rate is so hard to draw. It is what it is I guess.


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PickettSFHunter":9mt3q5hb said:
I cannot believe a hunt with an insanely low success rate is so hard to draw. It is what it is I guess.


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I'm right there with you.
 
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Buzzard Breath":2rc4i2ux said:
PickettSFHunter":2rc4i2ux said:
I cannot believe a hunt with an insanely low success rate is so hard to draw. It is what it is I guess.


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I'm right there with you.

I tried to up the success rate. I almost made it 1%[emoji23]


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Andy S.":37pt7wju said:
Good info, thanks for sharing.

docpoco":37pt7wju said:
They did tell me that hunters drawn this year had between 10-12 points.
I suspect this was for the December rut hunt, correct?

I "think" there were some drawn for the October PI buck hunt that had less than 10, but I could be mistaken.
I'd like to know how many points it took to get drawn for the October buck hunt. I'm sitting at 3 points, so it probably would take me close 20 years to draw for the Dec hunt. I got drawn for the old doe hunt in October twice. I struck out both times. Mosquitos about hauled me away the second year I went.

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My group is sitting at 9 points. I'm hoping that in the 4-5 more years I'm assuming it takes me to draw that the island will recover a little bit more. Does anyone happen to recall the success rates back in the early to mid 2000s when the island seemed to peak?
 
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bowhunterfanatic":1u3hp8ip said:
My group is sitting at 9 points. I'm hoping that in the 4-5 more years I'm assuming it takes me to draw that the island will recover a little bit more. Does anyone happen to recall the success rates back in the early to mid 2000s when the island seemed to peak?

15% ish


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PickettSFHunter":4t9uicuf said:
I cannot believe a hunt with an insanely low success rate is so hard to draw. It is what it is I guess.


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Because the odds of killing a world class deer, are probably greater than any other hunt in the southeast
 
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TN Larry":33m99fnk said:
Thanks for sharing! We sit at 11 points. The last couple of years we have put in with my son to make sure we don't get drawn for the PI Dec buck hunt. We may hold out another couple of years just to see if it changes to the better. I would like to see a few years without flooding and good soybean plantings before going back.

I wish I had saved my points and put in on another year that was more promising. I didn't know that Ensley had 4 ft of water in it earlier this year. At 63, my chances are slim of getting drawn before I see Jesus. I will start putting my grandsons in who are 4 and 2.
 
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Rockhound":6xpi60w4 said:
PickettSFHunter":6xpi60w4 said:
I cannot believe a hunt with an insanely low success rate is so hard to draw. It is what it is I guess.


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Because the odds of killing a world class deer, are probably greater than any other hunt in the southeast

PI has been hunted for along time now! How many Boone and Crockett gross scoping deer have been taken? 10 years sitting out other areas so you can drive by a burned out stolen vehicle near the entrance and see other hunters all around you? I just don't understand the fascination with the place.

However, I enjoy the stories.
 
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fairchaser":3jyyekkd said:
TN Larry":3jyyekkd said:
Thanks for sharing! We sit at 11 points. The last couple of years we have put in with my son to make sure we don't get drawn for the PI Dec buck hunt. We may hold out another couple of years just to see if it changes to the better. I would like to see a few years without flooding and good soybean plantings before going back.

I wish I had saved my points and put in on another year that was more promising. I didn't know that Ensley had 4 ft of water in it earlier this year. At 63, my chances are slim of getting drawn before I see Jesus. I will start putting my grandsons in who are 4 and 2.

Have faith! Put you and your grandsons in for a dr hunt in another state and you can still hunt with them!
 
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TN Larry":1yl28awm said:
Thanks for sharing! We sit at 11 points. The last couple of years we have put in with my son to make sure we don't get drawn for the PI Dec buck hunt. We may hold out another couple of years just to see if it changes to the better. I would like to see a few years without flooding and good soybean plantings before going back.

I also have 11 (amazing how fast it happens) and have been putting in with my son to wait for hopefully better days at PI. I would really like to hunt it with him but he only has 7 points and at age 48 in a month I can't wait that long.
 
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BULL MOOSE":3de33pf9 said:
I just don't understand the fascination with the place.

I worked on the island for 4 years in the late 90s. If you would've been around back then on high water days you would understand. The water would push the deer up near the road and it wasn't hard to drive around and see multiple 140+ class deer. Obviously, those days are gone but there is still excellent genetics, age class, and the deer aren't pressured. I hate hunting public land so I'm fine with waiting years to get drawn for this hunt.
 
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Rockhound":2bwq9tiw said:
PickettSFHunter":2bwq9tiw said:
I cannot believe a hunt with an insanely low success rate is so hard to draw. It is what it is I guess.


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Because the odds of killing a world class deer, are probably greater than any other hunt in the southeast

Not anymore. The odds of killing any deer there this year have plummeted to less than 1%.
I also talked to about 1/2 the hunters and none of them seen a "giant", most actually commented that "hunting at home is better than here". A few even said LBL is better, thats telling because LBL has like 3 deer.






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From my observation, an archer has a better chance now at a Pope and Young deer at Cheatham than PI.

I love quota hunts. They create excitement and commitment.

I propose a return to more quota hunt drawings on WMA''s. Too many are just open for most of the entire season.

Possibly a compromise,.....Divide some larger WMA's into area a and area b. Let A run similar to now and B have quota draws.
Perhaps alternate the areas every few years.

There needs to be some draw hunts at some state parks. Do it during the off peak use time ... December and January. Now would be a great time to do it! Other states are doing it. We have taken our kids on an early Dec. youth only state park firearms hunt in KY for two years. We stay in the park hotel, eat their food, and have a nice hunt. No telling how much extra income is generated for the park during that off peak weekend.

Oh...and get rid of all these early Oct. firearms hunts! Why are they offering hunts in October and then basically none in November or December? There are plenty of hunters who do not have a lease or family farm that would love to hunt wmas in late November and December.
 
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AT Hiker":39ov8kut said:
Rockhound":39ov8kut said:
PickettSFHunter":39ov8kut said:
I cannot believe a hunt with an insanely low success rate is so hard to draw. It is what it is I guess.


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Because the odds of killing a world class deer, are probably greater than any other hunt in the southeast

Not anymore. The odds of killing any deer there this year have plummeted to less than 1%.
I also talked to about 1/2 the hunters and none of them seen a "giant", most actually commented that "hunting at home is better than here". A few even said LBL is better, thats telling because LBL has like 3 deer.






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95% of applicants don't read tndeer either, they just go by what fred told them when he hunted it 8 years ago. There was a pic of a giant posted here
 
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Rockhound":2d0xidsd said:
95% of applicants don't read tndeer either, they just go by what fred told them when he hunted it 8 years ago. There was a pic of a giant posted here

Ah, I see. Yes, your 100% correct. Stories of the good ol days will always over shadow reality.

The optimism of certain TWRA employees down there helps with applications too. A casual conversation with them and you get the feeling it's still the same old place just a bit more difficult to hunt.


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I have 10 points built up but I am really starting to second guess my whole point build up for the island. At this point I hate to give up 10 years of points for anything on the quota hunt choices but do not know if I can work up the energy to drive 5.5 hours to bow hunt a place , I guess I am getting old like that!. I love to hunt big deer and nothing else seems appealing to me. Either too many on the hunt or in October when I am too busy with my job and could not go. I have alot to think about before next year! I wish I wasn't 10 points in , no way I would even consider it under my circumstances.
 
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Never put in PI and most likely never will. Way to many much better opportunities to kill a great buck with a bow and not have to pass up a buck that many people pay a lot of money to kill.
 
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What if Twra lost the island and those that had points flooded other draw hunts making it take longer to draw all over Tennessee?

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rstodd":3tj23ckc said:
What if Twra lost the island and those that had points flooded other draw hunts making it take longer to draw all over Tennessee?

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I've thought about that exact situation. I think most would simply drop out of the draws. The guys that keep putting in for it already have places to hunt and that's why they don't mind waiting a decade or more to hunt. If I'm wrong, I think they'd hose the odds for a year or two, then it'd all go back to normal.
 
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Buzzard Breath":3k7eaqse said:
rstodd":3k7eaqse said:
What if Twra lost the island and those that had points flooded other draw hunts making it take longer to draw all over Tennessee?

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I've thought about that exact situation. I think most would simply drop out of the draws. The guys that keep putting in for it already have places to hunt and that's why they don't mind waiting a decade or more to hunt. If I'm wrong, I think they'd hose the odds for a year or two, then it'd all go back to normal.

Agree.... majority of applicants are just looking for an above average bow hunt opportunity......If PI opportunity ceased to exist....then majority return to hunting private.....or in other words.....some of the applicants wouldn't even enter a draw hunt if PI we're not available.

So if your not interested in putting in for draw hunts...then putting in for PI and waiting years isnt anything more than waiting in line for an opportunity to hunt somewhere different.

As for success rates...the flood and lack of Ag verses years past have certainly had an impact.....but following the PI thread on TnDeer .....of the four or five on here who hunted .....one big mature buck was shot and not recovered.....saw a cell pic of what appeared to be a giant out of range....then couple of other reports of 130" deer being seen.......the "glory days" .....no, but an above average opportunity to atleast be around P&Y and up quality deer.
 
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Ok so I'm totally new to this draw hunt stuff. I really want to get into it. I am 32 so dont know if it would be worth it though. Would love the experience of hunting the island but would also hunt anywhere I could take a nice buck with a bow. Also how exactly does the process work? I checked my app and the only thing you can put in for is spring turkey hunts. May be rookie questions but gotta start somewhere lol

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gobblesandgrunts":14bxrner said:
Ok so I'm totally new to this draw hunt stuff. I really want to get into it. I am 32 so dont know if it would be worth it though. Would love the experience of hunting the island but would also hunt anywhere I could take a nice buck with a bow. Also how exactly does the process work? I checked my app and the only thing you can put in for is spring turkey hunts. May be rookie questions but gotta start somewhere lol

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I put in for quota hunts each year and I currently only see spring turkey hunts too......and I may be wrong but I believe this is because spring 2020 turkey is the only quota hunt currently available.....once the fall 2020 quota hunt dates are set I'm thinking they will be available to view online.....good luck hunting!
 
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DoubleRidge":347d4ywo said:
gobblesandgrunts":347d4ywo said:
Ok so I'm totally new to this draw hunt stuff. I really want to get into it. I am 32 so dont know if it would be worth it though. Would love the experience of hunting the island but would also hunt anywhere I could take a nice buck with a bow. Also how exactly does the process work? I checked my app and the only thing you can put in for is spring turkey hunts. May be rookie questions but gotta start somewhere lol

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I put in for quota hunts each year and I currently only see spring turkey hunts too......and I may be wrong but I believe this is because spring 2020 turkey is the only quota hunt currently available.....once the fall 2020 quota hunt dates are set I'm thinking they will be available to view online.....good luck hunting!
So we can still put in on every hunt and it will count for deer no matter what draw it is?

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gobblesandgrunts":1gphco5x said:
DoubleRidge":1gphco5x said:
gobblesandgrunts":1gphco5x said:
Ok so I'm totally new to this draw hunt stuff. I really want to get into it. I am 32 so dont know if it would be worth it though. Would love the experience of hunting the island but would also hunt anywhere I could take a nice buck with a bow. Also how exactly does the process work? I checked my app and the only thing you can put in for is spring turkey hunts. May be rookie questions but gotta start somewhere lol

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I put in for quota hunts each year and I currently only see spring turkey hunts too......and I may be wrong but I believe this is because spring 2020 turkey is the only quota hunt currently available.....once the fall 2020 quota hunt dates are set I'm thinking they will be available to view online.....good luck hunting!
So we can still put in on every hunt and it will count for deer no matter what draw it is?

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I mis quoted when I said I put in for several quota hunts...when actually I only put in for one each year. President's Island.....so when the new 2020 list of deer quota hunts comes out you will select the hunts you are interested in....and you will list them as 1st choice, 2nd choice, etc. If your not drawn you will receive a preference point. Overtime you can build points. But understand once your drawn your points go to zero...even if it's a 2nd choice hunt.....so for me, only wanting to hunt PI...I don't put a second choice.....no doubt there are others on here that can explain the system better or that have more experience putting in for multiple hunts each year.. Hopefully they will comment and help answer your question better.
 
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BULL MOOSE":v4clfubg said:
Rockhound":v4clfubg said:
PickettSFHunter":v4clfubg said:
I cannot believe a hunt with an insanely low success rate is so hard to draw. It is what it is I guess.


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Because the odds of killing a world class deer, are probably greater than any other hunt in the southeast

PI has been hunted for along time now! How many Boone and Crockett gross scoping deer have been taken? 10 years sitting out other areas so you can drive by a burned out stolen vehicle near the entrance and see other hunters all around you? I just don't understand the fascination with the place.

However, I enjoy the stories.

When I hunted it 11 years ago. If I could hunt it that one week end a year and it be like when I went 11 years ago I would swap the whole season for it. It is so sad that it has dropped off to the shape it's in now. I promise when I hunted there it was unexplainable. Unbelievable is more like it. I stayed on ready in 20 degree weather from daylight til dark in a summit open front stand. I mean a giant could appear at any second and you see deer all day. I hunted the first morning from daylight until 12 am and never saw a deer. My buddy was texting me every few minutes about a buck he just saw. I felt like the worst deer hunter ever. I got down. Moved 100 yards and started seeing bucks constant. I had a 135 8 point standing at 10 yards staring at a doe. I could see the breath coming out if his mouth. I've never hunted anywhere that was even close. It really breaks my heart that people won't get to experience like I did. So sad.
 

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