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No No No Saban is Satan, Bammer is evil!

I think I remember something about a fast-food clown paying Tennessee football players in paper bags.

Call me a homer, but there are schools that attract elite talent based on the potential to win regular season games, then bowl games/ playoff games, and high NFL daft likelihood. I know elite players get paid in NCAA football and basketball, but the ones that settle for a happy-meal full of cash are probably not the most confident that their talent will take them to the next level.
 
No No No Saban is Satan, Bammer is evil!

I think I remember something about a fast-food clown paying Tennessee football players in paper bags.

Call me a homer, but there are schools that attract elite talent based on the potential to win regular season games, then bowl games/ playoff games, and high NFL daft likelihood. I know elite players get paid in NCAA football and basketball, but the ones that settle for a happy-meal full of cash are probably not the most confident that their talent will take them to the next level.
That's better LOL
 
About to put the "I" in team. When there are two or three guys making a lot of money the rest of the team will start to resent it. Why am I blocking for XX QB or XX Running Back when they get all the glory. It will change the locker room and not for the better. We tend to forget there are only a handful of marquee players. Less than 2 percent of players go on to the NFL. Some of those are not really noticed by the fans.
 
About to put the "I" in team. When there are two or three guys making a lot of money the rest of the team will start to resent it. Why am I blocking for XX QB or XX Running Back when they get all the glory. It will change the locker room and not for the better. We tend to forget there are only a handful of marquee players. Less than 2 percent of players go on to the NFL. Some of those are not really noticed by the fans.
Good point. The QB, RB, WR1, DE, star CB will earn more from their NIL than others.

But it's the same in the NFL, and they play hard. Plenty of incentives. Playoff bonuses, individual incentives. The better teams' players stand to earn more.

This is going to be messy at first. We are relying on the Feds to pass national legislation and the NCAA, but as usual it is abdicating it's responsibility. In the meantime, it's up to the individual states, as usual. Thing is, none of the NIL laws "authorize" student-athletes to earn comp from their NIL. That's a misnomer reported by the media. They are adults and can earn comp from legal endeavors. These laws only prohibit the schools, conferences, and NCAA from preventing that which every other American is free to do. The state laws also prohibit the schools or others to pay the players to attend or play for a school in the state. That will be enforced by state police and the AG's office, not the NCAA.

Bagmen. DONE!
 
This transfer portal has ruined it for me. I hate it. No loyalty at all.
Hmm.

Do you feel the same about coaches who leave for a better job, a promotion, more money? What about the students who transfer, because another school is closer to home, more affordable, better for their chosen major? It's just the student-athletes playing for free who must be loyal? To the team/school of which you are a fan?
 
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I know I am about to get blasted for this but college sports is dead. With the supreme court ruling it is going to open the flood gates for players to get paid. This is no sustainable between title 9 restrictions and others college football and basketball can not support this. This means that lots of sports will be cut. It is already an $800.00 endeavor for me to travel from Clarksville and see a UT game. I refuse to pay more money for this. Last year during Covid lockdowns college sports viewership was down. Now that Americans realize that there is more to life than sitting in front of the idiot box all day on Saturday I predict another drop in viewership. If universities start cutting other athletic programs that is not good for the track and field, golf, polo athlete or non revenue generating programs. If you pay every Tennessee football player $500.00 a month what is the total cost for every athlete that you also have to pay.
That's not really what the NIL is intended.

This money isn't really coming from schools. If you are a fan of capitalism, why shouldn't someone be able to use their name and likeness to make money?!?

Besides - this probably opens up the door for a new NCAA football game which we haven't seen since 2004 :)
 
Hmm.

Do you feel the same about coaches who leave for a better job, a promotion, more money? What about the students who transfer, because another school is closer to home, more affordable, better for their chosen major? It's just the student-athletes playing for free who must be loyal? To the team/school of which you are a fan?
Hmmmm.
I said loyalty. Loyalty doesn't matter if you play sports or not. There are players on their 3rd team in three years. They are ruining the sport to me. You can troll someone else.
 
That's not really what the NIL is intended.

This money isn't really coming from schools. If you are a fan of capitalism, why shouldn't someone be able to use their name and likeness to make money?!?

Besides - this probably opens up the door for a new NCAA football game which we haven't seen since 2004 :)
^^^^^ This ^^^^

When a person thinks they or something/someone they like/love benefits from the status quo, change to that status quo can be hard to accept.

NIL, the US Supreme Court ruling, and the transfer portal are all separate and unrelated, yet represent change to the status quo. Why should a college athlete not be allowed a paid internship or a free laptop when other non-student athletes are allowed those benefits? After the Court's ruling, the NCAA, conferences, and schools have to treat the student-athlete equal to all other students.

Student-athletes have always been allowed to transfer, but they couldn't play right away unless they had already graduated (see Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts). Who did that NCAA rule benefit? Not the student-athletes. Since January, the student-athlete now has a one-time opportunity to transfer without sitting out a year whether a grad transfer or not. The transfer portal is simply a database that facilitates transfer and identifies who is going to transfer so other schools can legally (under NCAA rules) contact the athlete. That's all it is. The better programs will take advantage of it, and we've already seen that occurring. Plus, a new head coach who will most likely have been hired after the December and February signing days, has a better chance to fill out his roster with some transfers, and we've seen a lot of that. And, if a coach can leave for more money or a better opportunity or a coach can get fired or a program can commit recruiting violations, why must the student-athletes be stuck in place, while the coaches and administrators can move on to a better situation? Let's punish the players for the sins of the staff and/or athletic department?

NIL is going to be messy at first, but I don't think it's going to lead to the enrichment of student-athletes that many fear or to the demise of college sports. As DeerCamp points out, the state NIL laws prohibit boosters and schools from paying the players. The state laws simply prohibit the NCAA, conferences, and schools from prohibiting players from making money off their NIL. It's the American way to earn a profit off your NIL. Why should these adults be prohibited from doing so? But we aren't going to see national brands like Coca Cola and Ford using 18 and 19 year olds to promote their very, very valuable brand. It will be a lot of local businesses, Instagram posts, Tweets, start up businesses. The players will now be able to profit off their social media posts, like any other social media influencer. But these players are also going to have to pay income tax on their earnings (and playing for and attending school at Florida, Tennessee, or Texas doesn't make one a resident of those states). The players are also going to be subject to various contractual provisions, and they better read the fine print. They will have responsibilities to uphold, perhaps morality clauses, and we all know how some of these 18, 19, 20 year olds behave.

I think college athletics is the strongest that it's ever been. I checked with my teenage son, and he said NCAA 2014 was the last EA Sports NCAA football game. It will be back in 2023.
 
Reading an unrelated story, and a thought occurred to me. I hope the student-athletes get good advice and that the schools provide for it. That unrelated story had a photo of a player and under it ran the name of the photographer and publication in which that photo first appeared. Now let's say that player posted that photo of himself in an Instagram post. That's probably fair use. But when he posts that photo catching a TD pass and is promoting say a sports beverage, that's commercial use and if he doesn't have permission or doesn't provide attribution, that's copyright infringement. Plus, his team Jersey, helmet, mascot, etc are all trademarked. His school will warn him. Once. The USA Today, Tennessean, Columbus Dispatch, AL.com will send a cease and desist letter followed by an enforcement action if he does it again. Players will get sued for infringement, violating endorsement contracts, and the IRS and state departments of revenue will enforce their bite.

All in all, a good thing IMO, but the kids gotta get good guidance.
 
It's going to provide an incentive for kids to become even better athletes at a younger age. which could create more superstars in the future.
Some of the elite stars may be able to cash in on a national level if they're part of the right program.
Which this may now help some of them join elite programs for the money instead of "less elite" programs primarily for the education.
I'm thinking mostly about women's basketball because here in CT the girls are often followed like royalty, and now they can get some perks.
They're only young once and who knows how long any sensation will last?
There's always going to be another up and coming elite superstar, and it's bound to detract from their training and studies if they let it go to their head.
I hope that there's agents that can handle the business details for them.
 
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How about...

...the pros create minor leagues for the athletes who want to be paid, and those who can't cut it there can go the college and get an education. That way colleges can get back to education rather than entertainment.
 
How about...

...the pros create minor leagues for the athletes who want to be paid, and those who can't cut it there can go the college and get an education. That way colleges can get back to education rather than entertainment.
Not a bad idea if college was educating kids
 
Well like I said as the OP of the thread college football is dead. The NCAA announced yesterday they would no longer play a role in college sports anymore. This may take some time to get all the details taken care of but it is happening. This now means that there will essentially only be the Power 5 conferences. So roughly 50 teams, the smaller schools will more than likely get rid of their sports programs since they will not generate the revenue anymore. The power 5 will not be playing the Appalachain States or East Carolina to get that check each year. We are talking about a lot of young men and women no longer receiving scholarships to these smaller schools anymore since there will be no athletic programs. If you don't believe this just remember that USC Trojans shutdown 11 of their athletic programs during the Wuhan Flu freakout because of loss of revenue. This is just me and people on here may disagree but I am not dealing with the greed of this whole situation. Between free agency (transfer portal) to talk of unionization to talk of just actually paying players which unions and pay makes them employees which means they can be fired not student athletes this will no longer be college sports. This is just the NFL lite and I don't watch the NFL why would I watch this? Not really a huge loss to me I will just spend more time with my wife, hunting or at the gym. One positive thing about the world freaking out and college sports shutting down is after a couple of weeks I realized I didn't miss it has much has I thought I would and I spent less time being a flatasser on my couch in front of the idiot box. Obviously people will still watch but I think it will be significantly impacted. I mean tv viewership was down drastically last year in both college football and basketball even though we didn't have sports of any type for quite some time. I don't think those viewers are coming back and I think this will drive more people away. Below is the link if you haven't read the article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...um-role-as-college-sports-enters-new-era/amp/
 
I just don't get the animosity toward the transfer, which really isn't anything new in college football (one time free transfer rule is). 99% on this site are hard core free market capitalists. And it really helps teams that fired their coach post early signing period, where probably 90% or more of HS recruits are signed. For example, UT got 10 transfers after Heupel was hired. That was critical.
 
This transfer portal has ruined it for me. I hate it. No loyalty at all.
same here brother, I agree. I thought they essentially entered into an agreement/contract for an EDUCATION with the opportunity to play ball. Additionally, all the attention they get during high school...kid has four ball caps sitting in front of him during press conference and he picks the UNIVERSITY of higher learning he is going to attend. Too much drama
 

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