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Been all winter wondering what he'd look like this year. He was a big frame 8pt the last two years and this year seems he'll have it again. I love watching them grow.

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I'm too weak lol. I have to know!
I totally get it. But trust me, when you have NO IDEA what's out there and then you get a pic of a monarch come August….that feeling is unmatchable

I used to do that - watch the transgression, but it's slow to watch. Sometimes you get disappointed and sometimes the end results surprise you. I personally like the "HOLY MACKEREL" moments…especially from not having looked at deer pics since the previous fall 8 months ago
 
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I generally run my cameras year-round but there is only eight of them. I pulled cards yesterday after about 5 weeks and I noticed batteries are getting low in five or six of them. I may pull them and check everything out, redo the settings and put new batteries. But I love seeing pictures of deer and all the other Woodland Critters that seem to be strolling around
 
I totally get it. But trust me, when you have NO IDEA what's out there and then you get a pic of a monarch come August….that feeling is unmatchable

I used to do that - watch the transgression, but it's slow to watch. Sometimes you get disappointed and sometimes the end results surprise you. I personally like the "HOLY MACKEREL" moments…especially from not having looked at deer pics since the previous fall 8 months ago
I fully get you about the "Holy Mackerel!" moments. But my reason not to run them before end of July is because I'll try to start categorizing bucks. Then I'll get a picture two weeks later and spend the rest of the season arguing with myself over whether that is a new buck or the same buck with two weeks more of antler growth.
 
I fully get you about the "Holy Mackerel!" moments. But my reason not to run them before end of July is because I'll try to start categorizing bucks. Then I'll get a picture two weeks later and spend the rest of the season arguing with myself over whether that is a new buck or the same buck with two weeks more of antler growth.
HA same. I used to get so excited about 1 or 2 that had a huge jumpstart in growth early, to only stunt and turn out to be nothing burgers - every year. Though some looked like nothing special the first 2 months of growing, and then turn into monsters the last month of growing. You just never know. I personally don't like that guessing game and battery consumption. Though I did do that for over a decade 🤣
 
Do you have to refill them?

Sometimes in stretches of drought. Last time I filled it was mid October and right now it's tip top full. It can get about half empty before deer start getting on their knees to drink. I don't like letting it get that empty.

In late summer there's a few week window where deer are still heavy on mineral, early acorns are starting to drop, green is giving way to brown, and usually not much rain. That's when the water tank is getting hit hardest and by early fall needs topped off.
 
Sometimes in stretches of drought. Last time I filled it was mid October and right now it's tip top full. It can get about half empty before deer start getting on their knees to drink. I don't like letting it get that empty.

In late summer there's a few week window where deer are still heavy on mineral, early acorns are starting to drop, green is giving way to brown, and usually not much rain. That's when the water tank is getting hit hardest and by early fall needs topped off.
So they make some tarps that are used for above ceiling leaks that you can run a hose pipe to a drain. They are kinda pricey, however you can just take a ladder out in the woods and tie up a big tarp and then cut a small hole in it to funnel the water right above your watering hole. Then every time it rains your watering hole get filled up some.
Nice bucks by the way!
 
So they make some tarps that are used for above ceiling leaks that you can run a hose pipe to a drain. They are kinda pricey, however you can just take a ladder out in the woods and tie up a big tarp and then cut a small hole in it to funnel the water right above your watering hole. Then every time it rains your watering hole get filled up some.
Nice bucks by the way!

I have thought about trying something like that but instead of a tarp just digging a trench to divert drainage water to it.

My very first water tank was a mistake. I buried it in a drainage so it would always stay full. It does stay full but also is always full of debris and leaves. Much more so than I would have expected, and the deer use it only about half as often as my others I think because of no real good flat ground to stand on. It's been a learning curve!
 
Starting to look like this could be a "big antler" year.
I've had more than one west TN taxidermist tell me they expect it will be. What made them predict this? Both said they took in a lot of solid bucks last season, but not many jaw droppers, thus expected a lot more this season. My taxidermist has stood by this theory for the last 25 years. We shall see.
 
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I've had more than one west TN taxidermist tell me they expect it will be. What made them predict this? Both said they took in a lot of solid bucks last season, but not many jaw droppers, thus expected a lot more this season. My taxidermist has stood by this theory for last 25 years. We shall see.

I've been hearing the same but im optimistically skeptical. The reason ive heard is that good acorn years allow bucks to rebound well after rut, which makes sense. But as I understand antler growth, the nutrients for growth are stockpiled in the skeletal system, so the antlers grow well regardless of good or bad nutrition years. So I don't really know what to expect. I can't say I've ever noticed any years when antlers were noticeably bigger or smaller on average.
 
I can't say I've ever noticed any years when antlers were noticeably bigger or smaller on average.
Same here, but can kind of see where a taxi would have a different perspective. I do recall one of them mentioning deer hunters in SW TN complaining about not seeing many deer overall last year due to the bumper acorn crop, and not many bruisers coming into his shop. He went on to say a lot of good bucks and great bucks made it another year last year because they did not have to move much in daylight exposing themselves, thus he expects some true top end antler bucks per cohort this fall. We shall see.
 
Same here, but can kind of see where a taxi would have a different perspective. I do recall one of them mentioning deer hunters in SW TN complaining about not seeing many deer overall last year due to the bumper acorn crop, and not many bruisers coming into his shop. He went on to say a lot of good bucks and great bucks made it another year last year because they did not have to move much in daylight exposing themselves, thus he expects some true top end antler bucks per cohort this fall. We shall see.

Now that certainly could do it. If more bucks survived than normal then logic dictates the average age class the following year should be older, which would equate to more bigger bucks. If it will actually materialize that way or not is yet to be seen. But I've heard farther fetched theories for sure so maybe???
 
I've been hearing the same but im optimistically skeptical. The reason ive heard is that good acorn years allow bucks to rebound well after rut, which makes sense. But as I understand antler growth, the nutrients for growth are stockpiled in the skeletal system, so the antlers grow well regardless of good or bad nutrition years. So I don't really know what to expect. I can't say I've ever noticed any years when antlers were noticeably bigger or smaller on average.
It is really a combination of both. In essence, how that deer makes it through winter, as well as summer food resources. How a buck makes it through winter is a combination of how much rut stress he suffered in November and December, versus his food sources during winter. I buck that wasn't too rut stressed, in a good acorn year (especially one with a good Red Oak acorn crop), has the best chance for high antler growth. His chances increase even further if he has access to big bottomland soybean fields in summer.
 
Now that certainly could do it. If more bucks survived than normal then logic dictates the average age class the following year should be older, which would equate to more bigger bucks. If it will actually materialize that way or not is yet to be seen. But I've heard farther fetched theories for sure so maybe???
I have seen this play out. A good acorn year leads to fewer bucks being killed by hunters. The following year, the buck age structure is higher, hence more large-antlered bucks in the harvest.
 

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