Bating license in the news

[MickThompson]

Several products contain sugar. Then there is that deer cocaine that people pour on top of minerals that bubbles up ....all that seems to be banned.

How is putting out anything in front of a camera handled?
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Where did you grab that list from? The website specifically says that salt products are not considered bait.

 

[MickThompson]

Iv got a question?what if i hunt on land that private with permission only can bait if i want to ? I did not say i like this bait

My understanding is this will cover deer bait on any private land you hunt regardless of whether you own it, lease it, or have permission.

 

[Ski]

My guess is the 250yd rule will be contested in court if it's ever enforced. When baiting was illegal it was still a very sketchy rule that almost certainly would be shot down by a court if challenged. But now even more so. I don't know how TWRA could even argue it with a straight face.

 

[DoubleRidge]

Several products contain sugar. Then there is that deer cocaine that people pour on top of minerals that bubbles up ....all that seems to be banned.

How is putting out anything in front of a camera handled?
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Believe that list is a reference to "processsed foods" (bait) that contain salt, etc.....not to say a salt block or trophy rock. Processed foods would be more like the blocks that are packed full of molasses, corn, grain, etc.

 

[KTS]

It's illegal to bait in New York State but we use other means to bow hunt the deer .

Wow, ya'll hunt mule deer in New York?

 

[CATCHDAWG]

My guess is the 250yd rule will be contested in court if it's ever enforced. When baiting was illegal it was still a very sketchy rule that almost certainly would be shot down by a court if challenged. But now even more so. I don't know how TWRA could even argue it with a straight face.

My neighbor across the road who doesn't even hunt but I think he lets someone else hunt has a real pos neighbor that put out buckets of corn all down the property line with signs reading "baited area no hunting". I explained to him that was hunter harassment and he should report it. He called an officer who told him to ignore it and that nobody would do anything about it anyway.

 

[Ski]

My neighbor across the road who doesn't even hunt but I think he lets someone else hunt has a real pos neighbor that put out buckets of corn all down the property line with signs reading "baited area no hunting". I explained to him that was hunter harassment and he should report it. He called an officer who told him to ignore it and that nobody would do anything about it anyway.

That sounds reasonable.......the warden not the neighbor. Some people are just so unhappy they want everyone to be unhappy with them. Misery loves company.

 

[Antler Daddy]

Where did you grab that list from? The website specifically says that salt products are not considered bait.

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List appeared to be what was passed on this webpage.

https://newschannel9.com/sports/out...k-debate-hunters-landowners-asked-to-weigh-in

 

[Antler Daddy]

Can anyone explain how a larger property can have 1 bait location per 5 acres but must be 500 yards apart. Is that even possible to get 1500 feet away on 10 acres?

 

[deerhunter10]

Can anyone explain how a larger property can have 1 bait location per 5 acres but must be 500 yards apart. Is that even possible to get 1500 feet away on 10 acres?

with 10 acres hardly a reason to have more then one bait site anyways imo.

 

[MickThompson]

Can anyone explain how a larger property can have 1 bait location per 5 acres but must be 500 yards apart. Is that even possible to get 1500 feet away on 10 acres?

Depends on how it's shaped

 

[Wrangler95]

This really puts a damper on fighting the trespassing poachers on my property now. I found corn, next to their ladder stand last year, only 25 yards away from MY OWN ladder stand. Something's going to give here, some way, somehow.

Bad situation

 

[Snake]

Disclaimer: I don't bait and will never bait but I think I remember..... TWRA: We have CWD in places, so we need to kill all the deer there to slow the spread....TWRA: Baiting can spread CWD.... TWRA: Now, for a fee you can bait, it's all good..... Did I miss anything?

Yeah you missed TWRA implementing this ...they had no part in baiting law .

 

[megalomaniac]

My guess is the 250yd rule will be contested in court if it's ever enforced. When baiting was illegal it was still a very sketchy rule that almost certainly would be shot down by a court if challenged. But now even more so. I don't know how TWRA could even argue it with a straight face.

I may be mistaken, but I think the 250y rule was implemented to end the gray area of 'officer interpretation' that existed in the years prior to defining a distance that qualifies as 'hunting over bait'.

Prior to the 250y cut and dried distance regulation, it was defined as ANY distance from bait that unnaturally influences game movement.

I reported a neighbor that was baiting 50y from my line about 25 years ago. Game warden investigated, and then told me I could no longer legally hunt my entire block of timber adjacent to the bait... which extended 600 yards away from the neighbors bait until 10 days after the bait was removed. And that block of timber just happened to be where the majority of my oaks are... my bowhunting honey hole was ruined for archery. For that reason, I was reluctant to report random bait stations unless they actually ARE influencing my hunting negatively (primarily turkey season).

Since the 250 yard rule, I just pull up the bait on my map, measure 250 yards around it, and if I wasnt going to hunt that area anyways, I report it.

 

[Ski]

I may be mistaken, but I think the 250y rule was implemented to end the gray area of 'officer interpretation' that existed in the years prior to defining a distance that qualifies as 'hunting over bait'.

Prior to the 250y cut and dried distance regulation, it was defined as ANY distance from bait that unnaturally influences game movement.

I reported a neighbor that was baiting 50y from my line about 25 years ago. Game warden investigated, and then told me I could no longer legally hunt my entire block of timber adjacent to the bait... which extended 600 yards away from the neighbors bait until 10 days after the bait was removed. And that block of timber just happened to be where the majority of my oaks are... my bowhunting honey hole was ruined for archery. For that reason, I was reluctant to report random bait stations unless they actually ARE influencing my hunting negatively (primarily turkey season).

Since the 250 yard rule, I just pull up the bait on my map, measure 250 yards around it, and if I wasnt going to hunt that area anyways, I report it.

I believe I would have challenged that warden in court. I know it would have been an expense but the very principle would warrant it for me. No way am I going to allow a criminal neighbor rob me of my freedoms on my own land. I'm pretty confident a judge would agree with me. Confident enough that I'd find out.

 

[whelen65]

Wait...what? Buy a priveledge permit to hunt your land because a neighbor might be baiting on their land....I do understand and appreciate the spirit of your statement and I understand the 250 yard rule and all....but I'm not buying a baiting permit because of something my neighbors might be doing...(but thankfully the main neighbor that hunts who borders us has the same thoughts on baiting as we do so I wont be faced with this scenario)...but I dont see TWRA trying to bust people on neighboring propertys of those who bait. In other words, I have stands and shooting houses within 250 yards of property lines and would have no way to know if someone is or is not baiting...and again, I respect your desire to hunt legal, I do as well, but Im not buying the permit for a maybe or what if....that 50 bucks will buy a lot of chainsaw gas to do something actually benifical for wildlife.
(Just venting Joe2Kool...my comments are not directed at you, just general conversation on the topic)

This whole baiting thing was a set up by the TWRA, we all know they are crooked, and BROKE according to their budget, most things they do is all for money and ego!

 

[mike243]

You have no clue what you are talking about. Might want to read somewhere what the real score is.

 

[DoubleRidge]

With the new baiting privilege tax starting soon and with it not being legal in the CWD management zones or in CWD positive counties. I was curious which counties will not be included in the baiting privilege deal or rather which counties have been included in the CWD zone since last years detections...found the following list on tn.gov website.

"License is not available for use in the CWD Management Zone or in CWD-positive counties: Benton, Carroll, Chester, Crockett, Decatur, Dickson, Dyer, Fayette, Gibson, Hardeman, Hardin, Haywood, Henderson, Henry, Humphreys, Lake, Lauderdale, Lewis, Madison, McNairy, Obion, Shelby, Tipton, Wayne, Weakley, and Williamson."

 

[BSK]

"License is not available for use in the CWD Management Zone or in CWD-positive counties: Benton, Carroll, Chester, Crockett, Decatur, Dickson, Dyer, Fayette, Gibson, Hardeman, Hardin, Haywood, Henderson, Henry, Humphreys, Lake, Lauderdale, Lewis, Madison, McNairy, Obion, Shelby, Tipton, Wayne, Weakley, and Williamson."

Yea! My county won't allow baiting permits!

 

[DoubleRidge]

Yea! My county won't allow baiting permits!

Mine either...and Im glad...even though prevalence rate is under 2% it bad enough having CWD show up...dont need any help adding the practice of baiting to the challenge.

 

[BSK]

Mine either...and Im glad...even though prevalence rate is under 2% it bad enough having CWD show up...dont need any help adding the practice of baiting to the challenge.

If baiting were legal, I bet my neighbor will be back to pouring big piles of corn and open Costco-sized jars of peanut butter on my property line.

 

[DoubleRidge]

If baiting were legal, I bet my neighbor will be back to pouring big piles of corn and open Costco-sized jars of peanut butter on my property line.

"Costco-sized"....Wow! thats pro-master baiter stuff right there!

 

[BSK]

"Costco-sized"....Wow! thats pro-master baiter stuff right there!

When I found those things, I was incredulous. He left them lying against the tree with the property pain-markers on them.

 

[themanpcl]

If baiting were legal, I bet my neighbor will be back to pouring big piles of corn and open Costco-sized jars of peanut butter on my property line.

I know of a guy that did that on a property line once. Weird, the guy leasing the other property discovered it. The guy baiting never knew why he didn't see any more deer that season....good thing cams weren't prevalent back then....

 

[peytoncreekhunter]

When I found those things, I was incredulous. He left them lying against the tree with the property pain-markers on them.

Sounds like he did that just to be a prick and piss you off.

 

[volboy]

Someone commented that TWRA would have access to land if someone bought a permit and this is their response

 

[Rackseeker]

Nope !!! Why would they? They can't come on yout property without a warrant so how are they going to police it ?

drones

 

[Griswold]

You guys do realize a license doesn't tell them what all properties you hunt , right? Man people lose their mind with gov conspiracy theories

 

[deerhunter10]

You guys do realize a license doesn't tell them what all properties you hunt , right? Man people lose their mind with gov conspiracy theories

Before they came out with the rules I thought maybe you would have to disclose where the bait sites would be. But aint the case. I have no idea how they will regulate it probably wont. It is what it is.