Anybody shooting 40cal bullets in your 50cal?

[trap55555]

Been thinking about shooting some 40 cal bullets sabot'd in my 50 cal omega. Anybody running this combo?
I don't see these prepackaged, but I see 50cal sabot that hold 40 cal bullets available.

What your combination?
Have you run them across a chronograph?

 

[Carlos Viagra]

Most guys are shooting the 45 caliber bullets with the plastic sabots in their 50 cal rifles.

I don't think I've seen 40 cal bullets yet. Interesting idea though.

 

[ttf909]

The smokeless that I listed in classifieds shoots 40 cal in a 45 cal jacket.

 

[wcw280]

BSK is triggered just by this title.

 

[jlanecr500]

Typically, they won't be as accurate as thinner- walled sabots.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

Most guys are shooting the 45 caliber bullets with the plastic sabots in their 50 cal rifles.

This is what I switched to this year

 

[BuckWild]

I shoot .44 HP in a sabot.

 

[trap55555]

Yea, I get it most folks shoot 45cal bullets in sabot in their 50 cal front stuffer, I have for 40 plus yrs.

But these got me to wondering, maybe with 40 XTP Hornady bullet. OR maybe a long 40 bullet cal that was over 200gr might have a pretty good BC. But normally at my muzzleloader distances BC really don't matter.

 

[Billboy]

I have shot .40 cal 180gr XTP's in my Encore years ago. Shot pretty well and killed a few deer. Still shoot them in my daughters Wolverine for reduced recoil.

 

[backyardtndeer]

I don't think I've seen 40 cal bullets yet. Interesting idea though.

First I heard of using them in a 50 cal. I'd be curious about the availability of sabots to go from .50 bore to a 40 cal bullet.

 

[Remi]

Harvester has sabots

https://harvestermuzzleloading.com/...py-of-crushed-rib-high-pressure-sabots-50-cal
You can dig around and see some test results here


http://rchs61.org/completecapture.htm

 

[trap55555]

First I heard of using them in a 50 cal. I'd be curious about the availability of sabots to go from .50 bore to a 40 cal bullet.

In stock at Natchez .. Here's a link.

50-cal-crushed-rib-sabot-40-cal-bullets-50-pack

 

[trap55555]

I don't think I've seen 40 cal bullets yet. Interesting idea though.

Hornady has 40 cal hunting bullets 155gr, 180gr and 200gr,
Nosler has them 135gr, 150gr, 180gr, 200gr
Granted these are handgun bullets.

But I shot Hornady 45cal XTP's (handgun bullets) before I started chasing "pointed" bullets.
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[CHRIS WILSON]

Been thinking about shooting some 40 cal bullets sabot'd in my 50 cal omega. Anybody running this combo?
I don't see these prepackaged, but I see 50cal sabot that hold 40 cal bullets available.

What your combination?
Have you run them across a chronograph?

I played with the combo a few years back with mixed results. I was using the 40 caliber, 195 gr Barnes Expanders with Harvester sabots in my CVA Optima. Recoil was pretty mild from what I remember with 110 gr of BH209. I just couldn't get them to group as well as the 250 gr Barnes TEZ. Never did run it through a chronograph.

 

[41Magnum]

I use the 40 cal.180 gr. Hornady XTP with a 45 cal. Harvester Sabot over 80 gr Blackhorn 209 and a Federal 209 Magnum primer out of my 45 Cal. 15" Custom T/C G2 pistol, shoots 1 1/2" to 2" groups @ 100 yds. Always get complete penetration, Took three bucks with it in as many years.

 

[Roost 1]

You want your bullet diameter as close to bore diameter as posible for best accuracy. The sabot is the weak link. This is why guys using smokeless prefer shooting sabotless.

 

[XCR-2]

Why would anyone want to do this?

 

[Griswold]

Why would anyone want to do this?

Why not

 

[ewc]

I shoot the 195 Barnes sabotless at 3100 fps.

 

[XCR-2]

Why not

Because it theoretically makes 0 sense.

 

[Griswold]

Because it theoretically makes 0 sense.

Not if thats what someone wants to do, thats why there is so many choices in this world. Being and using the same as everyone else is boring

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

You want your bullet diameter as close to bore diameter as posible for best accuracy. The sabot is the weak link. This is why guys using smokeless prefer shooting sabotless.

While I understand this because of heat. Sabots can be very forgiving and an offer great accuracy. For most hunters and cold bore shooting . Heat is not really a factor. Even a follow up shot generally does not get shots stringing.

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

Not if thats what someone wants to do, thats why there is so many choices in this world. Being and using the same as everyone else is boring

Ive never been a fan of the 44 cal bullets but I know proplr that swear by them.

For years I swore by the .452 combos but as of late have gone to the .458 . Ive found the heavier jacket with the heavier load of BH209 is better load. Less grenade like fragmentation like the.452 .

Ill have to say every deer I shot with. 452 dropped like a rock. Im not complaining.

 

[Tenntrapper]

I've used .357 diameter bullets in a .50. It uses 2 sabots. They were very accurate and flat shooting in my CVA.
And yes...they will kill deer.

https://www.prbullet.com/shop/products.php?nCategoryID=1

 

[jlanecr500]

While I understand this because of heat. Sabots can be very forgiving and an offer great accuracy. For most hunters and cold bore shooting . Heat is not really a factor. Even a follow up shot generally does not get shots stringing.

Nothing to do with heat on a cold bore shot. It is a proven fact. As the projectile becomes closer to bore diameter, accuracy will improve. Obviously, there are a multitude of other factors at play when it comes to accuracy. Barrel time being #1.

If your desired accuracy is minute of deer at 50 or 100yds then its all good. Guess I've been squeezing all available accuracy for so long that I won't settle for less.

Good luck this season to all.

 

[CHRIS WILSON]

Why would anyone want to do this?

Speed...flatter trajectory...lower recoil. With some of the newer, heavier 40 cal mz bullets that are being produced, you get a better BC and sectional density over an equivalent weight 44 or 45 cal. Getting them to shoot well in a standard twist rate 50 caliber is the catch though. The longer, heavier 40 cals typically need a faster twist rate than what most 50 cals usually sport.

 

[Roost 1]

The best thing to do would be to get with Luke at Arrowhead sporting goods and inquire about his line of high BC bullets for 50cal rifles…. Thicker sabots and smaller bullets isn't the answer. However I guess everyone has their level of acceptable accuracy.
Not many people more knowledgeable on the subject than @jlanecr500. He has helped me tremendously over the years.

 

[ewc]

The best thing to do would be to get with Luke at Arrowhead sporting goods and inquire about his line of high BC bullets for 50cal rifles…. Thicker sabots and smaller bullets isn't the answer. However I guess everyone has their level of acceptable accuracy.
Not many people more knowledgeable on the subject than @jlanecr500. He has helped me tremendously over the years.

Or you could just do it the right way to begin with.....

I've been shooting .40 bare for 20 years.

However, Jlanecr is a very knowledgeable source

Just saying-

 

[Griswold]

Yes, because one ragged hole groups with sabots is only minute of deer