Yeah, i know the pics arent the best.Think both could be 4.5+, hard to say though from those pics.
Lol. I actially think the other (crappy photo) is older. His neck looks cazy think and he looks short legged and buffalo shouldered. Both are culls, but i try to shot by age and not rack size on tag 1I think the first one is 5.5, he looks old and fat like me. The second one it is hard to say. Could be 3.5 or 4.5.