and the wannabe legend strikes again

[TennBuck]

good job JR.

 

[spoon]

He didn't do anything wrong..well maybe got on the gas just a little to soon. That's just racing. I'm glad the busch brothers are out

 

[spoon]

If it was wrong NASCAR would have gave Dale a 5 lap penalty

 

[TennBuck]

not really. he already got a 1 lap penalty for shooting the pit.

5 lap penalty? then he would have "no" chance in winning. LOL!

 

[spoon]

That cause it was just racing and not on purpose. In the Nationwide race yesterday, there was one guy who did that on purpose and NASCAR gave him a 5 lap penalty. I'm sure the officals looked hard at the videos of the wreck

 

[TennBuck]

these cars are all over the place. cry-baby Stewart my have a story!

 

[backstraps]

i like jr but did not like his dad because of stuff like he just did.if nascar doesn't get him for rough driving because he is the golden boy then i am about to give up on it like a lot of other people have.it seems like they pick on the small guys and let the others get away with worse stuff.

I agree !! People hates the 18... he isnt my favorite, but at least he wins races. At the rate Jr wins...Kyle won enough races last year that the 88 could retire on.

 

[BuckNrut]

If a car gets a run on you like that and you block like that odds are its gonna be a wreck.

The 18 should have got spun several times the way he was blocking while in the lead.

Wrecks like that are a recipe of the restrictor plate.

 

[backstraps]

blocking didnt cause that wreck... Jr hitting the quarter panel of the Redbull caused that wreck.

Restrictor plate races does create too many accidents... this was caused by (Jr's words...being frustrated)

 

[TheAirMan]

blocking didnt cause that wreck... Jr hitting the quarter panel of the Redbull caused that wreck.

Exactly.

 

[NICHOLS3]

He didn't do anything wrong..well maybe got on the gas just a little to soon. That's just racing. I'm glad the busch brothers are out

Funny Kurt finished 10th and Jr finished 27th

 

[Gravey]

I'm a Junior fan but he was definitely in the wrong. He had a great run going to get around him and he dropped down and when Junior came back up he barely touched him which is all it takes. The commentators kept saying how Junior was trying to get in front so he could get the lucky dog position on the next caution but when interviewed after the race he said he didn't know why the race leaders would be blocking him and racing him hard. So either he was BSing about it or truly didn't know.

 

[dmitchell28]

I have read everything people have said. NO ONE says nothing about what vickers did. It should all start with the guy who throws the first punch. At least thats the way it went in grade school and the way I was taught growing up. He shoved Jr down into the infield, so much to the fact, he initiated first contact. Jr had a clean run on Vickers, how hard would it have been to just move over, they both coulda got their laps back!! But like i said no one sees this. Jr did move over and let people by if they had runs on him!!! and trust me, he is nothing like his dad, vickers would have NEVER tried to block SR. I guarentee that.

 

[oakclimber]

if jr would have backed off the gas at all he would have lost momentum and went straight to the back. he's lucky he didnt wreck when he got shoved on to the apron,but he kept it wide open and happened to clip vickers. if it was anybodys fault it was vickers for running him off the track. does anybody remember a few years back when jr was leading at talladega and vickers clipped jimmie johnson and then jimmie hit junior and they both wrecked and vickers won? what comes around goes around. jr does need to work on them pit stops though lol.

 

[ddgonehntn]

If you ain't rubbin you ain't racin!

 

[Grizzly Johnson]

if jr would have backed off the gas at all he would have lost momentum and went straight to the back. he's lucky he didnt wreck when he got shoved on to the apron,but he kept it wide open and happened to clip vickers. if it was anybodys fault it was vickers for running him off the track. does anybody remember a few years back when jr was leading at talladega and vickers clipped jimmie johnson and then jimmie hit junior and they both wrecked and vickers won? what comes around goes around. jr does need to work on them pit stops though lol.

Exactly or else Jr would have let off and everyone behind him would have bunched up and possibly caused an even bigger wreck!! Jr had a run and Vickers threw a block, he got what he deserved, next time maybe he will hold his line and be passed. If anything NASCAR should stop the blocking BS and then the faster car can pass and go on about his business!!

 

[deerjackie]

he s trying to get gordons job

 

[iowavf]

Either one of them could have avioded the wreck. IMO if you decide to move over that far to block, then be prepared to possibley get bumped. Junior could have also backed off just a little and also avoided the wreck. There where several close calls during the race by drivers doing the same thing, only they didn't get together.

 

[RussellvilleRob]

I am not a Jr. fan, but I think he is getting alot of heat for something that wasnt all his fault. But then again, who cares what I think? Ha Ha

 

[dmitchell28]

amen, i think everyone is throwing the blame on him, mainly because everyone on TV said he caused it. Its all media I would have to say. The first hit of the whole incident was vickers coming down on jr. But Vickers cried harry carry first so the blame goes to jr. bad wrap!!!

 

[backstraps]

If you watch any of the restrictor plate races... there are drivers all over the track, the entire race having to "let-off" to keep from having "thier run" hit someone in front of them....JR being no different. This case, he knew he needed to be ahead of Vickers to get the lucky dog next caution. Once he was blocked, he was suppose to drift back in line.

Blocking is part of racing. He chose to dump Vickers...and that not being bad enough... in front of the entire field. People has the perception it is Jr. so things should be different.

If anyone thinks a driver will think twice about blocking JR "next time" I think JR probably has a target on his back. I would think Dale had better be the one on lookout!

I would be willing to bet, JR will not have to be dumped, or intentionally blocked, etc etc to not have a sorry year. He will scrape bottom again this year, and his crew chief will get the blame. If it wasnt for his popularity with the fans due to his Daddy's name... he wouldnt even be racing in the CUP series.

OKAY that is my sermon. Let the games begin!!!

;-)

 

[Baxter83]

There are just too many rules out there now. Rubbin' is racin'! Besides all the cars are built and run pretty much identical now. You got to do what you got to do.

 

[backstraps]

LOL... Could you imagine the beer cans for the following 10 races thrown at Vickers if he were to wreck the 88! lol

Something I thought was interesting is how ole DW back peddled on his very first comments during the race... kept saying that is just wrong, "I dont care who you are" wonder what he was implying....lol


Chad, I wish I had those smileys I see guys on here using... I want the one where the smiley is standing next to the pot stirring it. Hey but it does make for good conversation!

 

[oakclimber]

anybody who wins back to back championships in the nationwide series is cup bound, i dont care who's son you are. jr is a straight up,tell it like it is guy and one of the last southern boys in the sport and if he said it wasnt on purpose i believe him. alot of people dont like him because he is dale sr boy and he takes away the attention from other drivers. thats not his fault. my point is the rain was coming and everybody was acting like it was the last lap(heck its the daytona 500), you get no breaks. it was a tense situation that ended up with vickers gettin spun only after the hit jr first and ran him off the track. blocking is one thing,but running somebody off the track is different.

 

[backstraps]

oakclimber, that is some good points, except one.

Jr winning back to back 98-99 Busch Series... remember who won back to back prior to Jr?
In 1996 and 1997... he didnt do much afterwards
Back to back came again in 2004-05 Martin is in Cup like Jr, but isnt a week to week threat to win,

 

[oakclimber]

oakclimber, that is some good points, except one.

Jr winning back to back 98-99 Busch Series... remember who won back to back prior to Jr?
In 1996 and 1997... he didnt do much afterwards
Back to back came again in 2004-05 Martin is in Cup like Jr, but isnt a week to week threat to win,

well you have to admit jr is a better driver than randy l. martin truex is a good driver that should have won more races than 1. on the other hand jr should have at least 10 more wins than he has,but either pit strategy or simple mistakes cost him or like kyle busch wrecking him at richmond :crazy: how many drivers are a threat to win week to week? just a few like johnson,busch,edwards. even jeff gordon is not a threat. these new cars have thrown alot of great drivers a curve,and it will take a alittle while to adapt. remember last year jr led the hendrick camp the first part of the season with the best finishes.

 

[backstraps]

I would admit Jr is better than RL...but I would also think Martin is better than JR.
Even though I do not like Kyle, he is actually a threat each weekend, Jimmy, Carl are probably the other week to week threats.

It is funny you mentioned last years Richmond race where Kyle spins Jr..and you earlier said Jr is straight up and tells it like it is...JR says after the race where he got spun by Kyle that it wasnt Kyles fault, if Kyle intended to wreck him he could have earlier in the race. But people still thinks Kyle wrecked him on purpose.

 

[oakclimber]

after the race,he did say that kyle wrecked him, i was listening to his incar radio, and he was HOT.

 

[oakclimber]

i pull for truex too,but you have to be kidding that he is better than jr. look at the stats

 

[backstraps]

Honestly, I am teasing a little. I dont mean anything by my post. I am just chatting on a forum for fun. I actually used to like Jr...just kind of worn off over the last couple of years.

Hey oak, I am glad everyone doesnt like the same driver.. wouldnt racing be even more boring than it is now?