A proposal to go back to 3 bucks

[Winchester]

Since the 2 buck limit did NOTHING to decrease the legal buck harvest this yr, with the total actually being HIGHER with it in place, I think we should lobby TWRA and TWRC to change it back like it was at 3 bucks!!! And before anybody starts on the, we killed less antlerless bucks wagon, doesn't matter the 2 buck limit only affected antlered bucks, not antlerless ones. TN hunters using more self restraint and trigger control is why you see less antlerless bucks getting killed, same reason the hunting is as good as it is now in TN, hunters using restraint and passing young bucks voluntarily more each yr has been happening more every year for some time now. TN hunters have proven they don't need unnecessary restrictions to better the hunting in TN. The shame in people making educated decisions without Government restricting them!!! lol

 

[Deer Assassin]

scott


i am down

 

[WORM82]

Agree

 

[Deer Assassin]

now we are counting buttons good times

 

[Plain Old Dave]

IMO the warm weather and torrential rain during gun season did more to reduce harvests than the unwarranted reduction in bucks.

 

[Grnwing]

Start a survey for the 3 buck limit and send it on to the TWRA and TWRC.

 

[TheLBLman]

Start a survey for the 3 buck limit and send it on to the TWRA and TWRC.

Not a bad idea at all.
That's actually exactly what TWRA did about this time last year, although their initial survey did not appear to steer the outcome so much as it sought the preference.

My opinion, it may or may not be correct, but upon hearing Mr. Chuck Yoest's (a top, highly respected wildlife biologist within TWRA) very honest and candid presentation last April, the Commission was kinda left in a position of looking incompetent if they didn't reduce the buck limit from 3 to 2.

This is a matter of public record, and occurred at the April 2015 Commission meeting. I challenge anyone who still has their panties in a wad over our buck limit, simply go review Mr. Yoest's presentation and ask yourself how you would have voted had you been one of the Commissioners.
His presentation to the Commission begins at minute 07:40 of TFWC Committee Meeting Part 2 (April 23, 2015) archived here at this link:
http://twraonline.org/TFWC/april-2015.html
By default, this Commission meeting archive will begin playing on Part 1. You will need to "click" on Part 2, run if up to minute 07:40 to just review Mr. Yoest's presentation to the Commission.

 

[e3stuard]

Well if you think that the 2 buck limit didn't save any bucks from being killed maybe the twra will just change it to 1 buck tag and see how many it saves.

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[redhunterZ71]

Put me down!!!

 

[farmin68]

now we are counting buttons good times

No, not buttons. There's a category for them.

We are talking yearling bucks.

There will be 5,000 more yearling bucks in the pool next year that will not be 2.5 YO.

You know that's not insignificant.

I learn something new here every day. Today I learned that a yearling can't be a 2.5 yr old. Who woulda ever thunk it? :tu:

 

[knightrider]

Well if you think that the 2 buck limit didn't save any bucks from being killed maybe the twra will just change it to 1 buck tag and see how many it saves.

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lets just go doe only! then maybe you guys will get what you want' a big set of antlers behind every tree, but you cant shoot em after all their precious bucks you know

 

[Snake]

now we are counting buttons good times

No, not buttons. There's a category for them.

We are talking yearling bucks.

There will be 5,000 more yearling bucks in the pool next year that will not be 2.5 YO.

You know that's not insignificant.

I learn something new here every day. Today I learned that a yearling can't be a 2.5 yr old. Who woulda ever thunk it? :tu:

 

[huntinkev]

Finally a decent survey.

Yes, I vote yes...where do I put my name down!

 

[Mike Belt]

Let's go to a 3 buck limit and then the following year back to a 2 buck limit. That way we will be assured never to know exactly what benefits Tn deer herds and hunters. Come on guys, give the 2 buck limit at least a couple more years to see if anything improves. I was for the 2 buck limit but would gladly jump ship back to 3 if it's potential merits are disproved.

 

[e3stuard]

If you care nothing about there horns why are you even concerned about a buck limit when you can kill as many doe as you want.

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[landman]

scott


i am down

DA you can't Vote......

You KILLED 3 BUCKS,

Maybe you need to hold a class to show those wanting to get more than 2 tags
how to get the 3rd tag

 

[Ken45]

:Could get worse,what about a one buck limit ,just alowed one ever two years,or what about close ever other county arty:

 

[Winchester]

To set the record straight, I don't have a problem with a 2 buck limit or even a 1 buck limit, if either was needed to benefit our deer hunting here in TN. I didn't say to benefit trophy hunting, although I guess you could classify me as a trophy hunter as I don't shoot young bucks on purpose. I love big racks and pursue them myself, yet I'm honest and know the limit doesn't make me successful, hard work and smart hunting does! My whole point here is to silence all the total BS many have posted here the last several months about all the 2 buck limit was going to accomplish Immediately. Many even made ludicrous posts about how it was already helping LOL. Like one poster already was big enough to admit, they were WRONG. Lowering the antlered buck limit, then seeing antlered buck harvest actually go UP, then jumping on the fact that the antlerLESS buck harvest dropped, and crediting the Antlered reduction for it!!BWAAAAAAAA Come on guys, how many here are Attorneys or Politicians???
Its all about hunter mindset, and when hunters can kill multiple bucks whether it be 2 or even 4 they don't worry what the first one is if they want to kill it, NO risk as they still have a buck tag. Only way to achieve any real gains in this department would be to go to a 1 buck limit! TRUTH IS! Come on guys just look at the facts!

 

[Vermin93]

Yeah, a 70% decrease in the harvest of bucks with little antlers and a whole bunch more hunters killing 1 buck had nothing to do with the 2-buck limit. :tu:

I can't give the proposal an ounce of serious consideration because of its denial of the obvious. It's like signing a petition that says 2+2 = 5. No can do.

I predict TWRA and TFWC will reach a very different conclusion on the harvest data than the supporters of this proposal.

 

[Winchester]

Vermin, what was the purpose of lowering the buck limit I ask? Was it not to recruit more bucks into next yrs herd? It was, and hundreds of posts can be found here to show this was THE Argument for the reduction, to allow more bucks to live another yr, hence promoting more older age bucks, etc. I don't have to explain it as its all over the older posts.
Now your argument that it worked is because more hunters killed a single buck, yet MORE bucks total were killed!! You say less Antlerless bucks were killed? They aren't legal under any buck limit??
Denial of the obvious is on the money here!!

 

[redhunterZ71]

Vermin, what was the purpose of lowering the buck limit I ask? Was it not to recruit more bucks into next yrs herd? It was, and hundreds of posts can be found here to show this was THE Argument for the reduction, to allow more bucks to live another yr, hence promoting more older age bucks, etc. I don't have to explain it as its all over the older posts.
Now your argument that it worked is because more hunters killed a single buck, yet MORE bucks total were killed!! You say less Antlerless bucks were killed? They aren't legal under any buck limit??
Denial of the obvious is on the money here!!

X2 what don't they understand about antlerless bucks has nothing to do with buck limit. Nothing changed there

 

[AT Hiker]

Whats the reason why antler-less buck numbers are down?


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[Deer Assassin]

To set the record straight, I don't have a problem with a 2 buck limit or even a 1 buck limit, if either was needed to benefit our deer hunting here in TN. I didn't say to benefit trophy hunting, although I guess you could classify me as a trophy hunter as I don't shoot young bucks on purpose. I love big racks and pursue them myself, yet I'm honest and know the limit doesn't make me successful, hard work and smart hunting does! My whole point here is to silence all the total BS many have posted here the last several months about all the 2 buck limit was going to accomplish Immediately. Many even made ludicrous posts about how it was already helping LOL. Like one poster already was big enough to admit, they were WRONG. Lowering the antlered buck limit, then seeing antlered buck harvest actually go UP, then jumping on the fact that the antlerLESS buck harvest dropped, and crediting the Antlered reduction for it!!BWAAAAAAAA Come on guys, how many here are Attorneys or Politicians???
Its all about hunter mindset, and when hunters can kill multiple bucks whether it be 2 or even 4 they don't worry what the first one is if they want to kill it, NO risk as they still have a buck tag. Only way to achieve any real gains in this department would be to go to a 1 buck limit! TRUTH IS! Come on guys just look at the facts!

It is simple scott

we can 100% thank the commercialization of hunting on tv. Folk are obsessed with antlers and if they get the mindset this will help they are sold, weather it is code blue doe piss or a 2 buck limit in tn.

tn had a 2 buck limit with only 3% third bucks killed
hunting is about having fun ask your dads or grandads they didnt give a crap about what a rack scored it was a good one or a lil one either way they were happy

every one wants to turn tn into ohio or iowa
the best thing to ever happen to this state was the increase doe harvest that is why folks are killing bigger bucks

 

[e3stuard]

If only 3% of hunters killed 3 bucks why is this a big deal

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[redhunterZ71]

If only 3% of hunters killed 3 bucks why is this a big deal

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Because if I see 3 bucks worthy of shooting I want to shoot them. By the time I pay for license, lease, gas, and hunting supply's I want my money's worth.

 

[lightsareout]

lets go down to one buck

 

[Oldiron]

Can always get your grandma and non-hunting family members to buy a license. Then the fun never has to cease.

Uh ohhh, I have let the long cherished secret out.

 

[hendrixoutdoors]

Does it really matter how many the limit is? I'm sure many of us know someone who has killed a buck and had someone else check it in for them. This sort of thing happens every season. No matter what the limit is set to someone somewhere is gonna find a way around it.

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[e3stuard]

So if the limit was 5 I guess you would shoot them to justify spending money

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[landman]

If only 3% of hunters killed 3 bucks why is this a big deal

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Because if I see 3 bucks worthy of shooting I want to shoot them. By the time I pay for license, lease, gas, and hunting supply's I want my money's worth.

why stop at 3?

If your REALLY wanted to kill that many bucks you could, TN had 3 hunters kill 10 bucks LEGALLY last year, DA killed 3 this year
If you really want your moneys worth