Rechargeable AA lithium update 1

I just put 12 of the rechargeable amp torrent in my first camera

Spartan cell

It is on a Trigger interval of every 60 minutes

1 photo and thats it.

Today is friday 5-12-23

I'm starting on a very low setting just to see how good it does. I will report back once the batteries are dead.

Thanks! This should be interesting.

Why? Whats with these batteries?
I am not familiar with them
Thanks

Chickenrig said:

Why? Whats with these batteries?
I am not familiar with them
Thanks

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Theoretically, they should save you money in the long run over non-rechargeable lithium ion.

Now I know a lot of people just run normal alkaline batteries, so if you do that, you probably have no interest. BSK and I used to buy a lot of the lithium ion batteries but they've gotten so expensive. Everyone is looking for other alternatives.

$2.44 a battery is the average cost for a double a non-rechargeable lithium ion, and one camera takes 12 lol

BSK said:

Thanks! This should be interesting.

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Update 1; external voltage of rechargeable batteries is 9.09 while non rechargeable hover in high 9s. I made sure to have all the batteries charged up in a couple days ago so that to me as interesting so far that the external voltage is already about one point lower.

put you another camera in there just to check and see if your main camera is actually detecting correctly, also you can tell if you need to make adjustments to your delay and so forth just a little tip, you can always remove the second cam at anytime

Update , it is June 13, my camera is reading 20% battery. I have only 58 pictures taken in the last month on these batteries (rechargeable lithium ion).

My setting was one photo on a trigger interval of 60 minutes.


Quite disappointing if this is the performance I get out of these. Standard, store bought lithium batteries last 2-3 months with much shorter trigger interval. I will put another set of the rechargeable into this camera and see what happens, but so far not impressed at all.

Thanks for the update. Not being a debbie downer, but I'm not overly surprised due to them being cheaper and Made in China. I have ran high quality Eneloop (Made in Japan) rechargeable AA batteries for years and they do a solid job in cooler/cold temps, but they are just "okay" in warmer/summer months, especially in cell cameras. They do perform better in non-cellular cameras when compared to cellular cameras. I suspect the AmpTorrent batteries are a better fit for wireless keyboards, wireless mouse, etc. Those "low drain" applications are a far cry from cellular cameras. My .02

** On a side note, if your experience holds true for other end users, I will be shocked to see Trailcampro.com continue to endorse these. **

Speedwell-Hunter said:

Quite disappointing if this is the performance I get out of these. Standard, store bought lithium batteries last 2-3 months with much shorter trigger interval.

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Very disappointing.
Could part of the issue be the particular cam you're using for the testing?

Just saying that because I set my cell cams for much more frequent triggering (and with mulitple pics) and am getting over 6 months usage with most my Browning & Ridgetec cellular cams. Actually, am getting closer to a year with some of them (Energizer Lithiums).

Andy S. said:

** On a side note, if your experience holds true for other end users, I will be shocked to see Trailcampro.com continue to endorse these. **

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A given.
Trailcampro will stop recommending if many people have such experiences.
These rechargeable lithiums will go the way of cuddebak trail cams on the website.

TheLBLman said:

A given.
Trailcampro will stop recommending if many people have such experiences.
These rechargeable lithiums will go the way of cuddebak trail cams on the website.

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TrailcamPro's current description is just as concerning at this point. They really endorse them. Sentence below is their opening statement:

"We have tested a lot of batteries over the years, most of which we end up discarding. The AmpTorrent Rechargeable Lithium AA caught and held our attention for a number of valuable reasons." ...........................

TheLBLman said:

Very disappointing.
Could part of the issue be the particular cam you're using for the testing?

Just saying that because I set my cell cams for much more frequent triggering (and with mulitple pics) and am getting over 6 months usage with most my Browning & Ridgetec cellular cams. Actually, am getting closer to a year with some of them (Energizer Lithiums).


A given.
Trailcampro will stop recommending if many people have such experiences.
These rechargeable lithiums will go the way of cuddebak trail cams on the website.

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Are you using same brand rechargeable ones I am?

Speedwell-Hunter said:

Are you using same brand rechargeable ones I am?

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I've not personally tested the same brand you're using.
I have tested other brands of rechargeables and had poor results with cell cams,
just not as poor as what you experienced.

I've had very different testing results with different cams, skewed even further if they're in different locations.

One of the biggest factors effecting your battery life (regardless of brand or type) is the strength of your cell signal. I've had Energizer lithiums only last a couple weeks in areas of poor cell signals.

I do plan to personally test the exact same batteries you're using later this summer.

One more thought:

Is it possible your battery meter could be inaccurate?
I commonly have battery meters on cell cams to temporarily go low, then come back later to 100%, when there didn't appear to be anything wrong with the batteries.

If you bought these from Trail Cam Pro,
PLEASE send a review here for others to see.

Very disappointing. Guess I'll still be taking a loan to get this year's shipment of Energizer lithiums.

BSK said:

Very disappointing. Guess I'll still be taking a loan to get this year's shipment of Energizer lithiums.

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I don't think the dataset is large enough for a blanket conclusion, yet.
Lots of possibilities, including a single bad battery,
which can happen even with Energizer lithiums.

You'll need an even bigger loan should you decide to go with these particular rechargables

If they will work satisfactorily, even close to what Trail Cam Pro suggests, they can save a good bit of money over time.

TheLBLman said:

I don't think the dataset is large enough for a blanket conclusion, yet.
Lots of possibilities, including a single bad battery,
which can happen even with Energizer lithiums.

You'll need an even bigger loan should you decide to go with these particular rechargables

If they will work satisfactorily, even close to what Trail Cam Pro suggests, they can save a good bit of money over time.

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Agree, I am still deciding.

LBL , so interesting note, the camera has been on 20% since June 13. Today is June 20, 2023. It's taken only 9 new pictures since June 13. Not much activity. But I have had that issue before with cams, where the battery indicator reads low and then bumps back next day. This one has not. It has remained on 20% since June 13. Not super impressed with these thus far, but hey, its nice to know I can just go recharge them and not spend $2 or more a battery for a single use. So not a complete failure, but not as good as the disposable ones. I will continue to use most likely

Anyone know about lith rechargeable? The rechargeable one shows only 1.52 bolts when it's fully charged, but my alkaline one shows 1.65 why is that?

Thanks

A fresh non-rechargeable lithium will read almost 1.8 volts.

That's normal. Rechargeable AAs are the least hot (1.5 V), then alkaline (1.6V), then Energizer Lithium (1.8V). FWIW, I'm not a fan of any rechargeable AA batteries during the hottest months of the year. They tend to drain exponentially quicker in summer months when compared to cooler/colder months. I've tested and occasionally run Japan made eneloop rechargeable AAs in Tactacam Reveal cell cams and I only get 3-5 weeks in summer over high activity salt licks. In winter, I typically get 14 weeks or so on a scrape, so that covers most of the main deer season (Oct - Jan). Colder temps and less activity (scrape vs salt lick) is where my rechargeable eneloops shine.

Andy S. said:

That's normal. Rechargeable AAs are the least hot (1.5 V), then alkaline (1.6V), then Energizer Lithium (1.8V). FWIW, I'm not a fan of any rechargeable AA batteries during the hottest months of the year. They tend to drain exponentially quicker in summer months when compared to cooler/colder months. I've tested and occasionally run Japan made eneloop rechargeable AAs in Tactacam Reveal cell cams and I only get 3-5 weeks in summer over high activity salt licks. In winter, I typically get 14 weeks or so on a scrape, so that covers most of the main deer season (Oct - Jan). Colder temps and less activity (scrape vs salt lick) is where my rechargeable eneloops shine.

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Well, that makes me feel better that the results I got are similar to yours