IMO rubs on the place in Giles Co and Lincoln Co. where overrated . While I would find rubs they were almost nonexistent but bucks wasn't , in the east part of the state I could see plenty of rubs but not many bucks so I learned to never be excited to see nor not to get down with rubs as buck sign. Once on the Giles place in one morning hunt in a wooded area I seen seven different bucks using the area I hunted but all out that ridge top to the saddle I was hunting I found only one rub no scrapes .