Crow Terminator
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catman529":3tx9wbdn said:sounds like your 1000 acres needs habitat improvements and more selective hunting pressure. I see big bucks on public land where people travel hundreds of miles to shoot yearling bucks. The habitat is where it's at. Give the deer a place to hide and survive the season, only hunt the right spots at the right time if you canCrow Terminator":3tx9wbdn said:In every case I know of when people attempt to do that on private land, the people on the surrounding/bordering land are opposed to it and kill everything. We tried it on my place for several years. Most of the surrounding land was off limits to other people hunting so that let us be in control of around 1,000 acres. We were seeing good results from it. The problem was...people driving down the road could see the bachelor groups of big bucks in the summer and it got everybody trying to hunt in this area. Big racks make people start throwing out big money to hunt. That got some guys in on one of the tracts that joins me. They killed everything that walked. Since then, I haven't saw or had a deer over 2 yrs old on camera in about 10 years. There at one time it was common to sit in the stand and see several nice 8 and 9 pointers in the 120 class....2 -3 yr olds. Now we can't even get a picture of one. They kill em before they get that big. Ain't nothing that can be done about it.
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My place hasn't been hunted other than Juvy weekend since 2014. I let a guy from church hunt with his little boy, and he has killed one doe. I gave a guy I work with permission to hunt and he came out once to scout but our work load peaks in the fall so he never had time to hunt it. Back in the day, during the summer you could sit on the porch in the evening and see the deer come into our soybean fields and get a good idea of what was in the area. In the rut we always had the surprise bucks that would show up on camera cruising around looking for does but for the most part, we could see a general view of the caliber deer we had. One year around 2009-2010, there was a bachelor group of some really nice bucks. You could drive the local roads in what I call "the loop" and see them fairly regularly and they were frequently in our fields too. Two of them got shot from the road...one was caught redheaded doing it. A neighbor killed one of the others. That's been it as far as sightings. You can see lots of does and small young buck bachelor groups but nothing to raise an eyebrow. I started running cameras about 4 weeks ago and all I have on there so far are lots of does, fawns, and a 4 pointer running with a spike. There were some days in the mid 2000s where it was a bad sit if you only saw 9 or 10 deer. I do know the surrounding area gets hammered now. There were only 3 or 4 landowners that butted up to my place. They've all died over the past decade. Their land sold and now new people own it and people do hunt it or let others hunt too. I don't mind so much these days but it was nice to go in the woods and at least see deer or decent sized bucks.
One thing I will say...when we did have the statewide restrictions...there were a lot of bucks shot and left laying cause nobody wanted to tag out. The road over from me was and is a popular dumping ground for deer carcasses. There were a bunch that were dumped there that had antlers sawed off and backstabs cut out. I bet you $100 bill that most were not checked out.