Would it be ethical to............................

[Baxter83]

Shoot one off the roost? :D I heard one gobbling on roost this morning and was moving in on him when I looked up and saw one roosted 30 yards from me. I waited for him to fly down (dangit!), but he landed behind a downed tree and literally disappeared. That one never gobbled the first time, but the one I was initially after sounded off a dozen times before he flew down. He might have been 50 yards from where I stumbled up on this one. Once they hit the ground they shut up and disappeared into thin air. This keeps happening to me..... :mad: :crazy:

 

[medwc]

Ethical? That would depend on you. Some people say it is unethical, some say blast um. As long as it is legal and you're ok with it then for you it is ethical. That is how I see it.
JMO, Dan

Oh and it happens to me too. I always try to get too close. I have never shot one off the roost and I do try to call them down. I have shot one tom from a tree but it was at 10:00 am. I was slow walking a trail and seen something jump from one branch to another. It was a big ol tom at 30 yards. He froze, I shot, dead bird. Seemed ethical to me, I would have done the same if he was on the ground and I walked up on him.

 

[RUGER]

I personally don't see any difference in it than walking up on one in a field.
Good luck.

 

[cruff10]

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

 

[Baxter83]

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

HMMMMM! Now there's a good way to look at it. ;)

Thanks for the input fellers. I'm pretty sure I know where they'll be in the morning so maybe I'll be a little more prepared and can set up in a better spot. It sure was tough looking at a nice gobbler for 30 or so minutes no more than 35 or 40 yards away from me up in a tree though. I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

 

[buckhorn40]

Shoot!!

 

[REN]

do what you need to do, if it was late in the season and i was still sitting at ZERO then would consider it no doubt!!

if i had one tagged already I prob wouldnt just because the thrill to me is calling them in, not really shooting them (dont get me wrong i LOVE shooting them to)

 

[REN]

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

No, just me personally, could care less if someone else did, but if I am going to make B&C books I want to have things go a little differently.

WOW....so if you got in a stand at dawn and when the sun came up you spotted him bedded down you wouldnt shoot??

if you say no so be it but I dont see any reason he would not be a dead deer at that time

 

[medwc]

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

No, just me personally, could care less if someone else did, but if I am going to make B&C books I want to have things go a little differently.

WOW....so if you got in a stand at dawn and when the sun came up you spotted him bedded down you wouldnt shoot??

if you say no so be it but I dont see any reason he would not be a dead deer at that time

lol, you are not an elitist. :whistle:

 

[REN]

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

No, just me personally, could care less if someone else did, but if I am going to make B&C books I want to have things go a little differently.

WOW....so if you got in a stand at dawn and when the sun came up you spotted him bedded down you wouldnt shoot??

if you say no so be it but I dont see any reason he would not be a dead deer at that time

lol, you are not an elitist. :whistle:

i guess not lol

 

[REN]

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

No, just me personally, could care less if someone else did, but if I am going to make B&C books I want to have things go a little differently.

WOW....so if you got in a stand at dawn and when the sun came up you spotted him bedded down you wouldnt shoot??

if you say no so be it but I dont see any reason he would not be a dead deer at that time

Absolutely, he is a dead deer or at least shot at. I thought we were talking about walking up on one? But yes, if it got light and he was bedded down, he is dead.

Don't know how to explain the difference, but for me there would be.

nah i see what you mean, walking up on one would be different to me. I am not sure if the difference would be enough not to shoot but i guess it would just depend on the day but i definitely see a difference.

that same DIFFERENCE is why i just cant deer hunt turkeys, just not my cup of tea (no knock on those that due just not for me)

 

[DBLAARCHERY]

Re: Would it be ethical to........................

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

No, just me personally, could care less if someone else did, but if I am going to make B&C books I want to have things go a little differently.

I would hate to say it but if you came up on a 180 BC 12 point and you didn't shoot him cause he was bedded :confused:
You have lost your mind...

Whats the difference in him bedded or trying to enjoy a nice stroll in the woods, or a nice dinner before bed...You guys kill me with your ethics questions... :D

 

[REN]

Re: Would it be ethical to........................

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

No, just me personally, could care less if someone else did, but if I am going to make B&C books I want to have things go a little differently.

I would hate to say it but if you came up on a 180 BC 12 point and you didn't shoot him cause he was bedded :confused:
You have lost your mind...

Whats the difference in him bedded or trying to enjoy a nice stroll in the woods, or a nice dinner before bed...You guys kill me with your ethics questions... :D

not speaking for hook, but i dont think it is an "ETHICS" question on this one more a personal choice. I dont think it is unethical at all to deer hunt turkeys, but i personally wont do it

 

[buckdead]

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ethics are over rated.

 

[DBLAARCHERY]

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It has nothing to do with ethics, it just wouldn't be my choice.

Now granted it has yet to happen, easy to say no on a keyboard, and not pull the trigger if it actually happened.

Heck for all I know I might shoot the deer without any second thought or care. My preference would be to have me perfectly intercept him after lots of hard work scouting and planning, but life doesn't always work out how we would like.

On the turkey thing, I have had the chance on the limb, and chose not to, could care less if other do however.

same here!

 

[Anonymous]

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Back home in the cypress, it can be quite challenging to sneak within range of a roostin turkey. It was the preferred method of killin 'um during the fall years ago. Many old timers I know still practice this method.

 

[gil1]

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NO

 

[PickettSFHunter]

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I personally wouldnt.

 

[redblood]

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No. For me a turkey isn't worth compromising your principles for. It is about the hunt not the harvest- a 20 lb bird. But If you are ok with it, do it. It is legal during set hunting hours I believe. No the 180 class buck, is a different story.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

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I have never been in a situation to shoot one out of roost, but I probably would. Even though there is nothing like setting up on him and have him fly down right there to you...Now thats fun!

For the 180 inch buck, I would definately shoot him. Yea, I would prefer to be sitting in my stand and have him walk by or chasing a doe or something. BUT if I was stealthy enough to sneak up on a buck of that caliber, I definately think that I deserve him. You beat him at his own game. He is more than likely at full alert, doing what he does best....hiding. You fooled him and you better believe I would take the shot.

 

[showmehorns]

Would you shoot a 12PT 180 class buck laying down in his bed broad side?

I'm torn on this one. I won't shoot one off the roost, it's just my personal choice, but I also think a gobbler is at a huge disadvantage when it comes to "sleeping in its bed". From what I have been lead to believe, those birds use flight from the roost in the poor morning light as a last option, due to less than desirable visibility.

Now, a bedded 180 class buck has the advantage of sight, smell AND that maturity that comes along with age. If I was able to stalk up on a mature, bedded buck, I would consider myself wiley enough to accomplish such a feat.

Just my personal opinion, which really isn't worth that much. :grin:

 

[Slaughter-06]

I know if you get close enough to see him on a limb, and see his beard, either shoot him or go after another bird. Because you will not kill that bird if you let him fly down.
He has already seen you and even though he might still be gobbling he will fly down the other way and shut up just like you said that one did.

I never have shot one off a limb and I never have killed one that I could see he had a beard.

 

[spitndrum]

I personally like playing the game but its legal and if you want him you shoot him dont worry bout what others have to say I would shoot one off the roost if I could I wouldnt limit out doing it though JMO!!!

 

[Spoonbillmallard]

Yup I would say blast em! Had a gobbler roosted yesterday evening and got about 30 yards from him. He had his head tucked and I was waiting for him to raise up. A truck came down the highway and he was wide awake then. he pulled his head up and it was behind a tree so when I stepped back to shoot he flew. But you better believe he was gonna get blasted.

 

[Baxter83]

I personally like playing the game

I played the game and LOST!!! :D I'll play a different game next time.....I think

 

[DBLAARCHERY]

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I personally like playing the game but its legal and if you want him you shoot him dont worry bout what others have to say I would shoot one off the roost if I could I wouldnt limit out doing it though JMO!!!

come on now tell the truth...You like calling too much... ;)

 

[shopson]

Ethical was back when Hunters would Call turkeys to within 40 yards or less to shoot.

 

[DBLAARCHERY]

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Ethical was back when Hunters would Call turkeys to within 40 yards or less to shoot.

Ethical was when birds and deer were killed for food and not for the sport or thrill... ;)

 

[shopson]

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I kill for all three reasons.

 

[medwc]

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I kill for all three reasons.

Killing isn't ethical, you "harvest" game.

lol, j/p, don't yall just love how politicly correct the USA has become.