Why do the good tress have poison ivy?

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Went out today to trim my shooting lanes and add a few more spots as backups.
Seems that all the best shaped trees, in good spots, had huge vines of poison ivy. I finally gave up on one area that had a great intersection of trails.
Spent some time cutting the vine bases with a machete. Maybe next year for those trees.
 
deerhunter10 said:
lucky for me I don't have to worry about that not allergic to it so I just cut them off and hang them on. got lucky in that sense.
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Yup,Im the same way,I just climb em anyway,the extra vinage helps camo you better. Sometime I have to pull it off.
 
cecil30-30 said:
deerhunter10 said:
lucky for me I don't have to worry about that not allergic to it so I just cut them off and hang them on. got lucky in that sense.
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Yup,Im the same way,I just climb em anyway,the extra vinage helps camo you better. Sometime I have to pull it off.
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Yep I'm not allergic either thank the good lord
 
made the mistake last year of climbing a tree with some on the tree, reaching around to get cable for climber was all it took. couple days later at doctor getting shot. Was not like that when i was a kid. Was always in woods & never recall have a reaction to it.
 
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I can catch poison oak/ivy in the dead of Winter. As a matter of fact, a Dr once told me that the vines secrete the oil even after the leaves have withered away during Winter.
 
You are exactly right. The oil is in them year around.
MUP said:
I can catch poison oak/ivy in the dead of Winter. As a matter of fact, a Dr once told me that the vines secrete the oil even after the leaves have withered away during Winter.
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Poser said:
Cut the vines in the Winter, pull them off in the early Summer, or just climb around them since they are dead (and if they are small enough to not impede your climbing)

The other option is to wear latex gloves and a long sleeve shirt, do your dirty work and then remove shirt and gloves and place in a bag.
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killing them does not remove the urushiol. You have to use gloves/protective wear even in the winter when dormant and after the vines have been killed. I get poison ivy rash in the middle of winter from climbing a tree that looks too good to pass and has a small PI vine on it. Now those trees with massive vines covering them up, I steer away from those.
 
I think I get it from the wind blowing the oil on me. I usually end up with it when I have not been in contact with it. I hate the stuff. I know I have had it all over my body in various break outs over the years.
 
Last time I caught PI/PO my wife duct-taped hunting gloves on my hands so I'd stop scratching myself raw while I was sleeping.

I dug up a good part of my back yard to get rid of it. Round-up just causes it to spring up somewhere else. I hate it and avoid it like the plague
 
All ya'll that are not allergic to it, beware, your body changes as you age.
Many times all of a sudden you will be allergic to it.
 
Exactly. I was super allergic to it when I was a young'un, then grew out of it it seemed during my late teen and twenties, then, as time has passed, I seem to be getting it more and more again. I guess it's like any allergies according to the Dr....as your body gets older, so does your immune system's ability to fight off attacks that it used to be able to fend off easier, but now has a more difficult time doing so, thus allergies are more detrimental to your body.

At the rate I'm going, I'll probaby die of PO/PI then I guess! :cry:
 
Football Hunter said:
Virginia Creeper maybe?I see way more of that than PI.
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I have creeper vines as well, and just leave them as long as they don't interfere.
This farm is about 50/50 creeper and PI.
 
RUGER said:
All ya'll that are not allergic to it, beware, your body changes as you age.
Many times all of a sudden you will be allergic to it.
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I've never been that allergic, only when I get the liquid sap on me, and then just a line of blisters.
However, year before last I thought I had it real bad, but couldn't for the life of me figure out how I got it on my back.
Turned out to be Shingles.
I'd take full blown PI anytime!!
 
RUGER said:
All ya'll that are not allergic to it, beware, your body changes as you age.
Many times all of a sudden you will be allergic to it.
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i have heard that before one year your not allergic to it the next you are. hopefully i never will!
 
It use to never bother me until one year I had a buddy up in a tree sawing what I thought was a tree limb while hanging a stand and the saw dust fell into my eyes/face. Turns out it was poison sumac. Next Morning I was in the ER. Ever since then that crap jumps out and attacks me as I walk by.
 
Yes you can get it year-round. The oil stays viable for up to 30 days so you can still "catch" it by handling your equipment or anything that came into contact with it several weeks later. If you're cutting a lot of it, then be sure and wash you hatchets and stuff in soapy water afterwards.

Other ways to get it is from water droplets (either rain or dew) rolling off the leaves an onto you and picking up some of the oil on the way. Another way is from burning it either in a pile or working a fire line.

I just hit my 19th year of working in this stuff year-round and it's a rare week that I don't have a spot or two. I used to get it real bad and I don't know if it's age or if I'm building up an immunity to it, but I don't get it near as bad as I used to.
 
When I suspect I've been exposed to poison ivy i soap up in cold water and Dawn dishwashing detergent and scrub down really good for several minutes. Dawn cuts the oil and the cold water keeps the pores of my skin closed to prevent worsening reactions. If you get it off of you quickly you can minimize the effects of the reaction.
I pretty much just assume I've been exposed when going through the woods and go ahead and scrub up afterwards.
Once a skin reaction appears I use Clobetisol Proprianate .05% topical cream (steroid) and the blisters are gone in two days.
 
Football Hunter said:
Virginia Creeper maybe?I see way more of that than PI.
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I don't know, I'd say they are about equal. I see tons of PI, at least as much as VA creeper. PI can also blanket a forest floor more often as well.
 
Rockhound said:
cecil30-30 said:
deerhunter10 said:
lucky for me I don't have to worry about that not allergic to it so I just cut them off and hang them on. got lucky in that sense.
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Yup,Im the same way,I just climb em anyway,the extra vinage helps camo you better. Sometime I have to pull it off.
Click to expand...

Yep I'm not allergic either thank the good lord
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x1000!
 
The best stuff ive found for when I get PI/PO (and I do every season) is called TechNu. That stuff works wonders. Ill scrub it everyday with cold water and then cover it up with a sock and duct tape that so it wont slide. If I get it on my hands then ill duct tape cloves to my hands. I will also put cortizone on them after I scrub them and take bennidryl before bed.
 
For many years, it appeared I was little effected by poison ivy, and I regularly just pulled the vines off trees with my bare hands.

One day I barely touched some and it dang near killed me.

You can develop a reaction or allergy to things that have previously not bothered you. That's why sometimes a person who has been stung by a honeybee several times in their past, suddenly dies from the sting of a honeybee.

When I need to touch poison ivy now, I wear gloves, usually disposable ones which I quickly dispose of after using.

Lye soap is beneficial in preventing/reducing reactions to poison ivy. Wash effected areas with it, then leave a soapy "paste" on any areas you believe have contacted the poison ivy. I swear, it seems to suck the poison from your skin.
 
seems to be vice versus for me .as i kid i could look at it and be covered up, head to toe,now just the opposite.why it appears on oaks and other hardwoods more than others ,i could not say.food for thought though
 
Ive had very little of it myself in all the years ive spent around it. The one time I got it pretty bad was when I actually cut some almost wrist size vines off a tree and tore them down hanging a loc on. I went back the next wk to hunt that stand and the sap/oil was literally oozing from the vines where cut and it was almost a black color!
 
I get it several times a year. A few times I had it so bad that it literally hurt. One of the worst cases I ever had was two years ago in Kansas after climbing a tree with a big fat vine in December. I thought it was only the leaves that got you and that the vines were harmless in the winter. Wrong! Another really bad time was when I was cutting some vines off a few trees that I wanted to use for treestands. I was whacking the vines with my machete and I didn't realize that the particles that I was knocking off the vines carried the urishiol. I never touched a vine with bare skin, but I got it all over my face and neck because of the particles in the air. Now when I see those vines I start looking for another tree.
 

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