What exactly is a hipster?

[redblood]

all these hipster threads got me thinking, what exactly is a hipster? I mean we all have our vision of what a hipster is, but who is right. I think of urban or suburban dwellers. must have a beard. flannel shirts, pants too tight. cuss a lot (something I have noticed). Like to social drink, and promote the fact that they like to drink. all about food and music, but usually not keen on sports. usually no children (probably not highly desired by the opposite sex).But maybe the people I am considering hipsters, are better designated by another title. So what is your definition, so I will know one if I run into them in woods, which is apparently where they are all heading. do we have any on TNDEER?

 

[BSK]

Multiple definitions of "hipster" from multiple sources:

* a person who follows the latest trends and fashions, especially those regarded as being outside the cultural mainstream.

* "A hipster is someone who is smart enough to talk about philosophy, music, politics, art, etc. with you all day long, but not smart enough to see how big of a tool s/he is. The only sure fire way to tell if someone you're talking to is, in fact, a hipster is to ask them 'are you a hipster?'."

* The hipster subculture typically consists of white millennials living in urban areas.

* a usually young person who is trendy, stylish, or progressive in an unconventional way; someone who is hip.

* "The media doesn't like Today's Hipster. Everybody loves to hate today's hipsters: they're too-cool-for-school, they're jerkfaces, they're memes, they're insecure wannabe sheeple wearing skinny jeans bought from department stores using mommy's Amex."

 

[Os2 Outdoors]

Multiple definitions of "hipster" from multiple sources:

* a person who follows the latest trends and fashions, especially those regarded as being outside the cultural mainstream.

* "A hipster is someone who is smart enough to talk about philosophy, music, politics, art, etc. with you all day long, but not smart enough to see how big of a tool s/he is. The only sure fire way to tell if someone you're talking to is, in fact, a hipster is to ask them 'are you a hipster?'."

* The hipster subculture typically consists of white millennials living in urban areas.

* a usually young person who is trendy, stylish, or progressive in an unconventional way; someone who is hip.

* "The media doesn't like Today's Hipster. Everybody loves to hate today's hipsters: they're too-cool-for-school, they're jerkfaces, they're memes, they're insecure wannabe sheeple wearing skinny jeans bought from department stores using mommy's Amex."

Zero hints at anything being outdoorsman, self reliant, organic eaters, etc LOL. Basically nothing to do with Hunting. I'm thinking this hipster thing is about as serious as Obama's plan for ISIS.

 

[infoman jr.]

Multiple definitions of "hipster" from multiple sources:

* a person who follows the latest trends and fashions, especially those regarded as being outside the cultural mainstream.

* "A hipster is someone who is smart enough to talk about philosophy, music, politics, art, etc. with you all day long, but not smart enough to see how big of a tool s/he is. The only sure fire way to tell if someone you're talking to is, in fact, a hipster is to ask them 'are you a hipster?'."

* The hipster subculture typically consists of white millennials living in urban areas.

* a usually young person who is trendy, stylish, or progressive in an unconventional way; someone who is hip.

* "The media doesn't like Today's Hipster. Everybody loves to hate today's hipsters: they're too-cool-for-school, they're jerkfaces, they're memes, they're insecure wannabe sheeple wearing skinny jeans bought from department stores using mommy's Amex."

Zero hints at anything being outdoorsman, self reliant, organic eaters, etc LOL. Basically nothing to do with Hunting. I'm thinking this hipster thing is about as serious as Obama's plan for ISIS.

I'm sure you've seen "preppy hunters." Ya know, all the latest sitka gear, truck covered in stickers, yeti cooler, all the most expensive gear. If you examined what a preppy person is, it rarely would involve mention of hunting. It's just another descriptor.

 

[Scioto]

Well, I'm not a "hipster." I guess that's good. Definitely not a millenial. Stopped wearing skinny jeans around 1980, but I think we called them "straight leg" jeans or something like that. I do own a couple flannel shirts. Daddy's AMEX is off limits to his four kids and mommy (and daddy for that matter). Can't stand fashion and whatever the latest fad is, but I do enjoy a good glass of wine, a Guinness, or a fine bourbon now and then and love good food. Love the Ohio State Buckeyes. No beard either. I wonder if my 57 year old farmer brother in law with his ZZ Top beard qualifies as a hipster? No, he's a hippie.

We've got room for the hipster hunters.

 

[BSK]

Although "hipster" definitions often use the term "trendy" to define the genre, I don't think that goes far enough. You have to understand the modern definition of "hip." The urban dictionary does a succinct job of defining "hip" with: Cooler than cool, the pinnacle of what is "it". Beyond all trends and conventional coolness." So being hip (being a hipster) is about being on the front end of trends--knowing what will be cool long before it is cool. In fact, once a trend has become "cool" to the mainstream, it is passé to the hip and they've moved beyond it.

 

[catman529]

It's not all young urban people, it's a specific type of them. Go into Franklin or Nashville and look in local shops, Juice Bar, Starbucks, organic patisserie, anything new with a vintage theme, bars full of local craft beer, most things with "organic" in it, stuff like that. There are some pretty cool places but they are overrun with hipsters. They are usually metrosexual, have a fondness for thick black rimmed glasses (doesn't make them look smart though) and not all of them have beards, but many do. Funny hats often.

Now for the attitude they definitely think they are cool. The attitude is what kills them along with the pink unicorn wardrobe. I have a couple friends who probably count as hipsters. They are pretty cool, although they have definitely taken on the fad. Hipsters aren't all tools, but generally speaking, they are. They also have an insane fascination with fixed-gear bicycles. I don't know why, I like to have lots of gears when I ride.

As for hipsters who get into hunting, it's a real thing, some of them like the outdoors and are into the local organic food movement, so much to the point that they want to go kill their own game. As long as they respect the laws and the land, which I think they seem like they do, then more power to them. We need someone to keep hunting going, and the hipster fad will die out and hopefully a few of the once-hipster hunters will keep hunting and raise their kids to hunt.


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[ZachMarkus]

Catman hit the nail on the head.

 

[redblood]

I don't get the fixes gear bikes either. I have a "fixie" for short training rides, but if we are doing long rides I want about 24 shimano gears

 

[BSK]

I don't get the fixes gear bikes either. I have a "fixie" for short training rides, but if we are doing long rides I want about 24 shimano gears

It's all about being "retro." Hipsters are really into anything retro that also includes simplicity of function.

 

[Shed Hunter]

I'm a super duper kewl hipster :super:

I don't get why we are talking about this. I must have missed some threads lol. Weird discussion nonetheless

 

[Shed Hunter]

I'm a super duper kewl hipster :super:

I don't get why we are talking about this. I must have missed some threads lol. Weird discussion nonetheless

Hunting, for many guys these days, was something that every man in their family did until their father's generation came along. It is something that defined masculinity for your grandfather's generation that your fathers generation let go of for various reasons. As a result, hunting is currently a "hip" thing to do amongst young folks who lacked that influence growing up. Some hunters who grew up in families that maintained their hunting lineage may be confused by this trend. Others, who fall into the "grumpy old man" category and apparently hate everything that is different their their own perspective (such as demonstrated by some of the regular commenters on this forum), resent it because, like everything else in the world apparently, it makes their lives miserable. :stir:

Okay, this puts the whole hipster thing into a more understandable prospective for me. My dad hunts and my grandpa doesn't. Hunting is just the norm for me as I was taught to do it my whole life. I like the end part of your post. There are a lot of grumpy old dudes on here :mrgreen:

I don't really keep up with what people are trying to do to look "hip" but if it's hunting then by all means that is a good thing.

 

[Scioto]

I bought "Free for All" and "Cat Scratch Fever" as a teenager in the mid 70s. They are probably in a storage room with my other old LPs waiting for me to get a turntable to replace the one I got rid of 20 years ago (that a hipster probably now has since they are into retro). I welcome the hipsters and think overall it's good for our hunting heritage. I hope it's not a passing fad as they would do more to expand the appeal of hunting to non-hunters and much more effectively silence the antis than Ted Nugent.

 

[catman529]

I don't get the fixes gear bikes either. I have a "fixie" for short training rides, but if we are doing long rides I want about 24 shimano gears

yup I got 24 Shinano on mine and like it that way


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[pass-thru]

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[catman529]

I bought "Free for All" and "Cat Scratch Fever" as a teenager in the mid 70s. They are probably in a storage room with my other old LPs waiting for me to get a turntable to replace the one I got rid of 20 years ago (that a hipster probably now has since they are into retro). I welcome the hipsters and think overall it's good for our hunting heritage. I hope it's not a passing fad as they would do more to expand the appeal of hunting to non-hunters and much more effectively silence the antis than Ted Nugent.

Uncle Ted is still a lot cooler than any hipster.


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[BSK]

To psychoanalyse those conditions and influences, I think that a lot of young men in recent years have started to look to a previous generation for the definition of masculinity. If you grew up in a rather bland, suburban environment of the 80s, 90s, 2000s where masculine influences were/are largely "tame" compared to examples of masculinity of previous generations, it sort of makes sense. Generation X, Z and Z looked to the the examples of their grandfather's generations: Those guys had beards, wore dirty work clothes, ground coffee by hand in the morning, shaved with a straight razor, drove vehicles that required a lot of maintenance, maybe used bacon grease for beard wax. They had tools and implements that required maintenance and were not disposable i.e. you fixed things instead of buying replacements. Look at the popularity of old time string band music these days, or even the late career celebration of Johnny Cash, for example: Granpappy's music.

Poser,

Probably one of the best psychoanalyses of the hipster movement I've ever read. Well done.

I still struggle to define the genre. Although I don't deal with hipsters extensively, I do participate in several activities that are virtual hipster requirements, hence I come in contact with them frequently (i.e. craft beer, vaping, etc.). Although I differ with aspects of the hipster belief system, I can't think of ANY social movement I completely agree with either. And even though individuals within any social group can be real tools, so far, the vast majority of hipsters I've had social contact with have been very pleasant, innovative, and interesting people. Yes, many believe they are way too cool for everybody else, but what young-person movement of the past HASN'T thought that? I'm sure I thought that way when I was 25.

 

[Bone Collector]

As for hipsters who get into hunting, it's a real thing, some of them like the outdoors and are into the local organic food movement, so much to the point that they want to go kill their own game. As long as they respect the laws and the land, which I think they seem like they do, then more power to them. We need someone to keep hunting going, and the hipster fad will die out and hopefully a few of the once-hipster hunters will keep hunting and raise their kids to hunt.

This is why they are going to the woods... It doesn't matter what type of clothes they wear, being a hipster is more about being environmentally conscious now and supporting local farms especially organic farms. being against commercial meat is what drives them to the woods. Knowing that their meat is organic and clean...

 

[AT Hiker]

Hunt all they want so long theu dont support PETA and HSUS.


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[fishboy1]

To psychoanalyse those conditions and influences, I think that a lot of young men in recent years have started to look to a previous generation for the definition of masculinity. If you grew up in a rather bland, suburban environment of the 80s, 90s, 2000s where masculine influences were/are largely "tame" compared to examples of masculinity of previous generations, it sort of makes sense. Generation X, Z and Z looked to the the examples of their grandfather's generations: Those guys had beards, wore dirty work clothes, ground coffee by hand in the morning, shaved with a straight razor, drove vehicles that required a lot of maintenance, maybe used bacon grease for beard wax. They had tools and implements that required maintenance and were not disposable i.e. you fixed things instead of buying replacements. Look at the popularity of old time string band music these days, or even the late career celebration of Johnny Cash, for example: Granpappy's music.

Poser,

Probably one of the best psychoanalyses of the hipster movement I've ever read. Well done.

I still struggle to define the genre. Although I don't deal with hipsters extensively, I do participate in several activities that are virtual hipster requirements, hence I come in contact with them frequently (i.e. craft beer, vaping, etc.). Although I differ with aspects of the hipster belief system, I can't think of ANY social movement I completely agree with either. And even though individuals within any social group can be real tools, so far, the vast majority of hipsters I've had social contact with have been very pleasant, innovative, and interesting people. Yes, many believe they are way too cool for everybody else, but what young-person movement of the past HASN'T thought that? I'm sure I thought that way when I was 25.

.02 from one of the grumpy old dudes. :rotf:
Poser is on point. The analysis is accurate with one exception. Most of the hipsters want to be SEEN as masculine but are often quite feminine or act somewhat feminine.
Can't quite figure that one out.
Perhaps hipsters adopting hunting is an effort to get in touch with their masculine side that has been repressed by society and shed the feminism that is crammed down their throat ?

Back in the Paleolithic period when I grew up we called people who wanted to be SEEN as something they weren't "Phoneys, Imposters, or Poseur" (no offense intended to Poser).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmJzl9SpkwA This song kinda sums it up from an 80's punk perspective.
:super:

Regardless of WHY hipsters are getting into hunting, I think it is a good thing. Plenty of room for more good folks to join the hunting clan.
Its good for hunting by adding new blood, and its good for hipsters because well....what is better than hunting? ! :tu:

 

[BSK]

.02 from one of the grumpy old dudes. :rotf:
Poser is on point. The analysis is accurate with one exception. Most of the hipsters want to be SEEN as masculine but are often quite feminine or act somewhat feminine.
Can't quite figure that one out.
Perhaps hipsters adopting hunting is an effort to get in touch with their masculine side that has been repressed by society and shed the feminism that is crammed down their throat ?

Well said, and I agree fishboy1. I think being required to support radical feminism (by their women) puts hipster males in a tough position, and they struggle with that side of their identity.

 

[TheLBLman]

. . . . being required to support radical feminism (by their women) puts hipster males in a tough position . . . .

So, does this mean BSK is now a "hipster"?
Are hipsters allowed to post on TNdeer.com?