What a difference a year can make

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This buck went from a very nice up & coming 8pt last year to a legit stud 8pt this year!

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This next guy stayed exactly same but added a couple fliers on the back of his right beam.

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Isnt it great to see them grow. To me, its better than killing them. The jump from 3.5 to 4.5 can often be a huge leap.
 
Any deer I get pictures of keep their racks the same every year, I keeps them alive!
 
Any deer I get pictures of keep their racks the same every year

Yeah that seems to happen a lot. Racks get bigger but I've noticed they stay pretty much the same year to year in general frame shape & tine count. Sometimes they add or lose main tines but I don't see it very often. Seems at 2yrs old they have the rack they'll have forever, only it gets bigger with age.

This guy is a perfect example. I called him Lefty because his left side was noticeably bigger than his right. Going from 2yrs to 3yrs his rack hardly changed but he gained a lot of mass & a little length. Looking forward to see what 4yrs looks like....if he survives.

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Yeah that seems to happen a lot. Racks get bigger but I've noticed they stay pretty much the same year to year in general frame shape & tine count. Sometimes they add or lose main tines but I don't see it very often. Seems at 2yrs old they have the rack they'll have forever, only it gets bigger with age.


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And that's how I'm able to track many bucks from year to year - aspects of their antlers stay the same over their lifetime, barring an injury to body or antler pedicle.

Some bucks put on a lot of growth from 2 1/2 to 4 1/2. Some don't. Why the difference is a mystery.
 
And that's how I'm able to track many bucks from year to year - aspects of their antlers stay the same over their lifetime, barring an injury to body or antler pedicle.

Some bucks put on a lot of growth from 2 1/2 to 4 1/2. Some don't. Why the difference is a mystery.

Me too. I recognize a buck from previous years almost immediately. And through years of camera intel I can predict the time frames they'll be using my property. They do it year after year pretty consistently as long as they survive.
 
Me too. I recognize a buck from previous years almost immediately. And through years of camera intel I can predict the time frames they'll be using my property. They do it year after year pretty consistently as long as they survive.
I had one buck that would show up on camera for the first time exactly on Oct. 31 every year. He did it three years in a row. Until we killed him!
 
I had one buck that would show up on camera for the first time exactly on Oct. 31 every year. He did it three years in a row. Until we killed him!

That's exactly how my wife shot her buck last season. I suspected on November 12 just after daylight he'd be in front of one particular stand because he'd done it the two previous years. I've always heard of the "same time same place" theory so we gave it try. Sure enough like clockwork there he was at 8am. Now he's hanging on the living room wall.

That kind of stuff is where I find value in cameras. Being able to watch specific deer grow up, learning their personalities, and patterning their behaviors has helped me a lot as a hunter. Sure I don't get the surprise of a random buck very often, but I get the reward of putting a plan to work and tagging a certain buck. I like that part of it.
 
That's exactly how my wife shot her buck last season. I suspected on November 12 just after daylight he'd be in front of one particular stand because he'd done it the two previous years. I've always heard of the "same time same place" theory so we gave it try. Sure enough like clockwork there he was at 8am. Now he's hanging on the living room wall.
That's a cool story.

That kind of stuff is where I find value in cameras. Being able to watch specific deer grow up, learning their personalities, and patterning their behaviors has helped me a lot as a hunter. Sure I don't get the surprise of a random buck very often, but I get the reward of putting a plan to work and tagging a certain buck. I like that part of it.
When a bunch of biologists/researchers happen to be at the same place, usually a scientific conference or hunting show, they tend to gather and tell stories, or mention some the crazy ideas they have. Many years ago, before GPS collars became common, I was telling other reseachers about the strange patterns I would see in "buck appearances" on long-term trail-camera censuses, in that, "new" bucks would appear in bunches, and at repeated times of year. I mentioned that I was beginning to believe deer have very unique but traditional seasonal ranges inside of their total annual range. It wasn't until GPS-collars became commonplace that this was confirmed. Some deer DO have very distinct but traditional seasonal/rut ranges.
 
I mentioned that I was beginning to believe deer have very unique but traditional seasonal ranges inside of their total annual range. It wasn't until GPS-collars became commonplace that this was confirmed. Some deer DO have very distinct but traditional seasonal/rut ranges.

It wouldn't take GPS collars to convince me. I've seen it play out year after year. It's uncanny how they seem to repeat patterns of movement. I'm completely fascinated by it. Growing up all I ever heard was that deer are instinctive and don't have cognitive ability such as problem solving or much of a memory. What I've seen from both cameras and from personal experience hunting, it's hard to notice a discrepancy between conventional thinking and reality. I'm not saying deer are genius, only that they are more complex than is often considered.
 
Very nice 8 point. Year to year pics are one of my favorite things hunting related.

I see a lot of size increase, staying the same, and even getting smaller
 
Nice buck! I got one close to that ones size on camera at 1 am this morning. I think it was the 2.5 year old I passed last year. if so he has put on some bone.

Good Luck
 
If you got a 3yr old that big, you've got something quite special!!! They don't get that size around my place until they're 5ish +.
In some of the areas I hunt a 3.5 year old 150" deer isn't uncommon, but still I've never photographed a deer that would go much over 170" and I've followed a few of those 3.5s for several years. I just wish I could combine that trait with the habitat/soil quality/whatever it is in regions like the Midwest where bucks continue growing as a commonplace trend until there 6.5-7.5
 
If you got a 3yr old that big, you've got something quite special!!! They don't get that size around my place until they're 5ish +.
he's not as big I looked again. Mine doesn't have the mass. that being said. G2's appear to be around 12" and G3s aren't far behind. here's a pic. IDK how old he is. I am assuming it is the 2.5 year Old I let walk last year. the second pic was this morning on a different camera. Cant see his antlers well, but you can see his body better.
 

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he's not as big I looked again. Mine doesn't have the mass. that being said. G2's appear to be around 12" and G3s aren't far behind. here's a pic. IDK how old he is. I am assuming it is the 2.5 year Old I let walk last year. the second pic was this morning on a different camera. Cant see his antlers well, but you can see his body better.

That guy is a stud! I'd think he's older than 3.5yrs. Awful short legs and developed brisket for a young deer. 3yrs or not he'd not get a pass by me!
 
I think your definition of uncommon must be way different than my definition of uncommon.
Every year I've ran cameras on one particular property, I've photographed at least one 150" 3.5 year old so not entirely uncommon. Statewide-sure. I don't think those genetics exist across the state as a whole
 
In some of the areas I hunt a 3.5 year old 150" deer isn't uncommon, but still I've never photographed a deer that would go much over 170" and I've followed a few of those 3.5s for several years. I just wish I could combine that trait with the habitat/soil quality/whatever it is in regions like the Midwest where bucks continue growing as a commonplace trend until there 6.5-7.5
It's going to be hard to match areas of the country with 9 foot deep topsoil.
 

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