I took the plunge yesterday and ordered a CVA Apex in 45-70 and a scope also. I I talked to Robert Young and he is going to do the conversion on the barrel. I also ordered rings for the scope last night. I need to order a ram rod but don't know the length. I am going to call Arrowhead this evening and talk to them about some sample packs of bullets and sabots. And the rod. Any input from our local experts would be greatly appreciated.