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Using a grunt call and bleat can??
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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Belt" data-source="post: 3853029" data-attributes="member: 69"><p>If you use a grunter then sit back and 5-10 minutes later a buck comes slinking into your area did you call him in or was it just a coincidence? Who knows? If you do this and the same thing happens multiple, multiple times I no longer call it a coincidence. Those bucks are responding to the call. I've drawn unseen bucks in time and time again over the years. </p><p></p><p>I grunt softly 3 or 4 times in case there may be a close by buck. My thinking is that too loud will turn him away and I'll never know he was there. I'll give it 2-5 minutes and if nothing shows I'll hit it louder... especially if it's windy. Sometimes I try to wait until in between wind gusts. Calling is useless if they can't hear you. Then I just sit back and WATCH. You could have a buck come charging in but most I've called in came in slinking. Did I mention WATCH and pay particular attention downwind of your location? If they're coming in from that direction they may wind you and you'll never know they were there. They could be anywhere when you call and try circling around you in order to get downwind of your location. The trick is to spot them moving before they can get there. Did I mention WATCH? If there's any time on stand to sit still it's after calling. If he's coming he's going to be looking and searching for you...and he may just stand in one spot for a few minutes looking. (I suspect that calling has worked for more people than they realize but because movement has turned the buck away the caller never knew he was there). I repeat calling every 45-60 minutes. If the rut is on I sometimes add an estrous call. In all my trips to the woods I've only heard and seen estrous does calling a dozen or so times but I've called in three times that many bucks using an estrous call. When I have witnessed it the does were calling non stop for a couple of minutes at a time. When I use one I prefer to use it alone. Occasionally I'll follow it up with a grunter.</p><p></p><p>Location can also be a factor. For instance, if you're hunting open hardwoods and calling and a buck sneaks in without you knowing it. He's probably going to hang up looking. He hears the call but he can't see the buck and he should be able to in open hardwoods. Same can be said for an open field. He gets suspicious and backs out without you ever knowing it. If you're calling from a thicker area where visibility is tight he's going to have to get closer and hopefully you'll catch his movement before he has a change of heart. Again, WATCH WITHOUT MOVEMENT because he's going to be WATCHING FOR MOVEMENT; and probably more intently than he would if he was just traveling along on his own. </p><p></p><p>If you're going to be calling sometimes you can pick your spot. Set up where a deer can't get downwind without being seen first by keeping the more open area downwind of you. Set up to either side of the wind direction particularly if it's off the edge of cover he may use in his approach. Don't over call and NEVER call to a buck you see approaching unless he's turning to leave.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Belt, post: 3853029, member: 69"] If you use a grunter then sit back and 5-10 minutes later a buck comes slinking into your area did you call him in or was it just a coincidence? Who knows? If you do this and the same thing happens multiple, multiple times I no longer call it a coincidence. Those bucks are responding to the call. I've drawn unseen bucks in time and time again over the years. I grunt softly 3 or 4 times in case there may be a close by buck. My thinking is that too loud will turn him away and I'll never know he was there. I'll give it 2-5 minutes and if nothing shows I'll hit it louder... especially if it's windy. Sometimes I try to wait until in between wind gusts. Calling is useless if they can't hear you. Then I just sit back and WATCH. You could have a buck come charging in but most I've called in came in slinking. Did I mention WATCH and pay particular attention downwind of your location? If they're coming in from that direction they may wind you and you'll never know they were there. They could be anywhere when you call and try circling around you in order to get downwind of your location. The trick is to spot them moving before they can get there. Did I mention WATCH? If there's any time on stand to sit still it's after calling. If he's coming he's going to be looking and searching for you...and he may just stand in one spot for a few minutes looking. (I suspect that calling has worked for more people than they realize but because movement has turned the buck away the caller never knew he was there). I repeat calling every 45-60 minutes. If the rut is on I sometimes add an estrous call. In all my trips to the woods I've only heard and seen estrous does calling a dozen or so times but I've called in three times that many bucks using an estrous call. When I have witnessed it the does were calling non stop for a couple of minutes at a time. When I use one I prefer to use it alone. Occasionally I'll follow it up with a grunter. Location can also be a factor. For instance, if you're hunting open hardwoods and calling and a buck sneaks in without you knowing it. He's probably going to hang up looking. He hears the call but he can't see the buck and he should be able to in open hardwoods. Same can be said for an open field. He gets suspicious and backs out without you ever knowing it. If you're calling from a thicker area where visibility is tight he's going to have to get closer and hopefully you'll catch his movement before he has a change of heart. Again, WATCH WITHOUT MOVEMENT because he's going to be WATCHING FOR MOVEMENT; and probably more intently than he would if he was just traveling along on his own. If you're going to be calling sometimes you can pick your spot. Set up where a deer can't get downwind without being seen first by keeping the more open area downwind of you. Set up to either side of the wind direction particularly if it's off the edge of cover he may use in his approach. Don't over call and NEVER call to a buck you see approaching unless he's turning to leave. [/QUOTE]
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