Twra may 24 carp meeting

[bluball]

Twra is haveing a meeting may 24 for anyone interested in going,link below.

http://www.wenkwtpr.com/2018/05/21/twra ... ry-county/

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[scn]

Thanks for posting.

 

[WTM]

looks like they are live streaming on faceytweets as well.

 

[GRIT]

If a man had the extra money to blow on a boat set up and equipment he might be able to make some money one day i see the demand and market going up on these carp.

 

[bluball]

If a man had the extra money to blow on a boat set up and equipment he might be able to make some money one day i see the demand and market going up on these carp.

Thats what we need at the moment until they figure something out.The worse thing is the nearest processor i believe is in whitecliff,ky.Heard they spoil pretty fast so they need to be iced down.I think ky installed ice machines at a couple locations for the comerical fishermen.

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[GRIT]

Don't hold me to this but i think they only pay 2 cents a pound for them if that price would go up i think a lot more people would take a chance getting into it.They could maybe set some freezer trucks or something on certain dates to help the fishermen out.

 

[TNReb]

Don't hold me to this but i think they only pay 2 cents a pound for them if that price would go up i think a lot more people would take a chance getting into it.They could maybe set some freezer trucks or something on certain dates to help the fishermen out.

Geez... 2 cents a pound is about zero incentive for any "normal" guy to do it. Even if a man managed 500 pounds of the things, that's $10.

The thing is... commercializing them is tricky. Once a person/company can make money on catching carp, it's no longer in their best interest to get rid of all of the carp. Their money disappears.

 

[RUGER]

Don't hold me to this but i think they only pay 2 cents a pound for them if that price would go up i think a lot more people would take a chance getting into it.They could maybe set some freezer trucks or something on certain dates to help the fishermen out.

Probably about right.
I remember when I watched it on the news about the plant in Wickliff or wherever it was, I remember thinking there is no way I would mess with them for that little of a price per pound.

 

[TheLBLman]

. . . commercializing them is tricky.
Once a person/company can make money on catching carp, it's no longer in their best interest to get rid of all of the carp. Their money disappears.

Very true.
But this may be the best way to rapidly reduce the carp population.

 

[bluball]

Think .13 a lb is what they a getting.Twra is talking about giving them .07 a lbfor a total of .20 a lb.Think rhey are talking about helping them with free nets to so many fishermen as an incentive.They are also talking about giving the processing plants a couple cents a pound.

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[bluball]

Yall need to watch this video,think ky is ahead of the problem compared to tn


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g06TMuctkZA

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[TNReb]

. . . commercializing them is tricky.
Once a person/company can make money on catching carp, it's no longer in their best interest to get rid of all of the carp. Their money disappears.

Very true.
But this may be the best way to rapidly reduce the carp population.

I don't disagree. I just think an expiration date has to be established. "After 3 years, all incentives are off".

I assume the powers that control this have more sense than I do and take this in consideration.

 

[bluball]

. . . commercializing them is tricky.
Once a person/company can make money on catching carp, it's no longer in their best interest to get rid of all of the carp. Their money disappears.

Very true.
But this may be the best way to rapidly reduce the carp population.

I don't disagree. I just think an expiration date has to be established. "After 3 years, all incentives are off".

I assume the powers that control this have more sense than I do and take this in consideration.

Dont think its that easy or the problem would have already been solved

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[TheLBLman]

Dont think its that easy or the problem would have already been solved

Agree.

We need multiple plans of attack against this problem.

Perhaps seeing this invasive species as a tasty food item becomes a good start.

We may also need C.A.R.P. (Carp Angling Roudy People)
promoting regional, state and national carp-fishing tournaments.

I nominate SCN to be editor-at-large for the new CarpMaster Magazine.
Read All About It: Big Carp on the Fly!
Who needs tarpon? - Tennessee Boasts New Freshwater Fishery

I can see it now: Kirk's Karp Outfitters :tu:

 

[Crappieaddict]

I don't particularly like to even touch em. Not sure I'd be to into eating em, but who knows? I've read they can be served up pretty tasty.........

 

[bluball]

I don't particularly like to even touch em. Not sure I'd be to into eating em, but who knows? I've read they can be served up pretty tasty.........

I went to ky crappie.com get together 2 yrs ago and they cooked some for everyone to try,tasted pretty good

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[TheLBLman]

Perhaps we need Jeremy Wade (of River Monsters fame) to come over
team up with Steve McAdams ----- start a new TV show -------
The Carp Masters
Hey, Garry Mason can be to C.A.R.P. what Ray Scott has been to B.A.S.S.

Who will be the first inductee into the C.A.R.P. River Rider's Hall of Fame?

Date Pending:

The 2018 CarpMasters Invitational - Tennessee's Kentucky Lake - Blast Off from Paris Landing Marina
(All carp caught in this tournament will be donated to CFTH)

 

[WTM]

questions i would want to know. how much funding is being set aside for the problem and has any thought been given to trying the "unified method" when the fish are in the bays in order to trap and kill them. this method was used successfully in a smaller lake to eradicate them. this is the way the chinese round them up for harvest.

 

[bluball]

Think ky lake is different than a smaller lake,could be wrong though.You going to the meeting thursday.

questions i would want to know. how much funding is being set aside for the problem and has any thought been given to trying the "unified method" when the fish are in the bays in order to trap and kill them. this method was used successfully in a smaller lake to eradicate them. this is the way the chinese round them up for harvest.

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[WTM]

Think ky lake is different than a smaller lake,could be wrong though.You going to the meeting thursday.

questions i would want to know. how much funding is being set aside for the problem and has any thought been given to trying the "unified method" when the fish are in the bays in order to trap and kill them. this method was used successfully in a smaller lake to eradicate them. this is the way the chinese round them up for harvest.

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i should be able to make it. the lake in missouri was 2200 acres, comparable to a few of our bays although the depth of those bays could be problematic. looks like someone could design a sounder on the same freq that makes them go apeshat and herd them into the back of the bays and net them off. the manpower would probably take 50 boats to place the nets.

 

[bluball]

Think ky lake is different than a smaller lake,could be wrong though.You going to the meeting thursday.

questions i would want to know. how much funding is being set aside for the problem and has any thought been given to trying the "unified method" when the fish are in the bays in order to trap and kill them. this method was used successfully in a smaller lake to eradicate them. this is the way the chinese round them up for harvest.

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i should be able to make it. the lake in missouri was 2200 acres, comparable to a few of our bays although the depth of those bays could be problematic. looks like someone could design a sounder on the same freq that makes them go apeshat and herd them into the back of the bays and net them off. the manpower would probably take 50 boats to place the nets.

Whats ky lake,think i heard them say 160,000 acres on the bassmaster site

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[TheLBLman]

I ended up not being able to make this (had intended).

Insights into the meeting?

 

[WTM]

I ended up not being able to make this (had intended).

Insights into the meeting?

i thought it was tonight at 6:30. oh well. ive got to weed eat 2 acres of hillside before dark. neighbor saw a big rattlesnake next to it today.

 

[bluball]

I ended up not being able to make this (had intended).

Insights into the meeting?

i thought it was tonight at 6:30. oh well. ive got to weed eat 2 acres of hillside before dark. neighbor saw a big rattlesnake next to it today.

Is is tonight aint it

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[cbhunter]

Yes, it was tonight

TWRA holds public meeting to discuss Asian carp concerns in Tennessee River
HENRY COUNTY, Tenn. — The Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency will hold a public meeting T...http://www.wbbjtv.com/2018/05/24/twra-h ... see-river/


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[bluball]

Yes, it was tonight

TWRA holds public meeting to discuss Asian carp concerns in Tennessee River
HENRY COUNTY, Tenn. — The Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency will hold a public meeting T...http://www.wbbjtv.com/2018/05/24/twra-h ... see-river/


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Yeah i went,they need more money.

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[WTM]

they have the video up on faceytweets. if you dont do faceytweets you can do a search and still watch some of the video.

my take away:

no money from state or federal agencies.

my thoughts: illinois received $100 million. maybe we need to start electing a whole slew of liberal democrats.(i cant believe i just said that).

little is known about asian carp and how to combat them.

my thoughts: illinois used electric fences made out of 4x6 steel beams injected with 1 volt per inch.(they wanted to use 4 volts per inch but the COE wouldnt let them. they also used commercial fishing to reduce numbers. the boating industry is coming back to the illinois river. in some smaller lakes they have been rounded up using the unified method and removed.

crappie and bass populations: they are on a cyclical downturn reservoir wide and the big sandy has had trouble with repeated failed recruitments more than any other bay. they do not know why.

my thoughts: its just the nature of the beast. fish react to environmental changes and presuure like any other wildlife. i quit fishing big sandy in about 2001. in the 90's it was a fine fishery for white crappie. the reason i quit fishing it was the amount of new fishermen that were increasing there. to the south, eagle creek is another that the white crappie has dwindled over the last several years.

thin crappie and disappearance of shad: they sent some fish off to a lab and they reported that their only conclusion were signs of stress and malnourishment during a brutal winter. the shad were more than likely winter killed. during the spring survey their creel study that the crappie were gaining weight back.

my thoughts: i figured as much. there can be zero consequences from 32 deg water temps and 3 inches of ice for several weeks. like i have posted before, something happened between the fall and early spring to cause it. extreme cold.

the future of KY lake monitor and try to get funding.

my thoughts: TWRA is doing what they can with what they have at hand. the blame needs to rest at the feet of our politicians. $500k for 2 years of funding and hopefully $10 million for 5 years if they get it. so let me get this straight, you politicians dont want to spend money to save a $5 billion dollar industry with most being small businesses that rely on lake and river traffic. give me a break.

i hope im wrong, but i think these weak spawn years will continue maybe not because of the silver carp but from environmental conditions. if the long range climatologists are correct we will see more cooler temps and harder winters in the years to come.

as far as asian carp, if what frank fiss says is true and the 3 year old carp in the lake spawn, we may be headed for a population explosion.