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I did realize while reading the proposals that the spring turkey hunting on all these WMAs in region 1 that went to quota hunts this year have been proposed to go to nonquota /1 bird per wma closed the first 2 weeks of season next year....guess either nobody applied for the quota system or there werent any harvests on the quota hunts myself included or they caught alot of flack for closing down nearly every wma around to quota hunting
 
I wish twra would have released some of that hard data they spoke of in their meeting so hunters could make wise comments concerning the future of our deer herd.
 
My comments read as follows:

To whom it may concern,

I have been a Tennessee resident most of my life, and have always enjoyed hunting in the great state. Many things have changed over the years, including buck limits. I have seen vast improvements to the deer herd over the past few years due to voluntary hunter selection and education, despite a 3-buck limit. I do not want to see that change. The deer herd is healthy as it is, and VERY few people take 3 bucks per year as it is… As a matter of fact, relatively few people take 1-2 bucks per year. I do not see a 2-buck limit improving anything from a biological perspective.

I am a Tennessee Lifetime Sportsman's License holder, and do not want to see my opportunities reduced due to trophy hunters who watch TV hunting shows and have unrealistic expectations of what buck limits can do. I am a bit more of a purist, who hunts deer for the enjoyment of the woods and the meat that they provide. I don't try to artificially create a deer hunting utopia by planting food plots and creating ambush points, but prefer to learn how to outwit my quarry in their own habitat. I do not run trail cameras to try to identify specific bucks and ambush them with technology, but prefer to follow natural food sources and travel corridors to hunt deer. I also do not have the money in my family budget for lease fees, nor do I want to go that route, so I mainly hunt public land. Most of all, I am NOT a trophy hunter, and although I would like to shoot a nice buck occasionally, I do so more for nostalgia, not for antler score. I do not have anything against people who choose to pursue these styles of hunting, but I do not want others' styles of hunting to be forced on me.

Tennessee provides many opportunities to hunt for a long season, which is great for a person like me, who is the father of 3 and has a busy work schedule leaving limited opportunities. I do not have the funds or time to travel to other states to hunt, so my opportunities rest in Tennessee alone, as do many others. I have harvested 3 bucks in one season twice to my recollection, so I do not make a habit of laying waste to the buck population. I try to be selective in what I shoot, although I have harvested a few small bucks in recent years by accident thinking that they were does during my limited doe opportunities in my area. This is due to shadows and vegetation. This is another reason that I do not want to see the buck limit reduced, as it could easily cut my time afield short.

In short, I DO NOT want to see the buck limit reduced. I can only see reduced opportunities for the "common" folk who hunt for reasons other than trophies. I would rather see some form of restrictions placed on one or two of the bucks within the three buck limit, assuring that hunters are not indiscriminately shooting every small buck that they see, if that is the concern.
 
Article from Wed, May 6th:

Public may comment on reducing deer limit

http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/2015/05/06/public-may-comment-reducing-deer-limit/70895996/

The public has until May 18 to weigh in on a controversial proposal to change the state's three buck limit for deer to two.

The Tennessee Fish and Wildlife Commission called for changing the limit, which has been in place since 1999, at its April meeting and instructed the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency to draw up a proclamation that can be voted on at its next meeting, which is May 21-22.

If it passes, the new limit will become effective Aug. 1.

The stated goal of the TFWC wildlife committee, which made the recommendation to reduce the bag limit, is to increase the number of mature bucks statewide.

Input from the public could play a significant role in moving the proclamation along to its next step, according to Doug Markham, TWRA information officer.

"I've seen the public turn stuff before," Markham said. "If only one or two comments are submitted, maybe they don't get it, but I have seen the public turn our commissioners several times through the years."

Markham said the TWRA is prepared to hear from a large number of hunters on this issue.

"We're talking about a statewide issue, and for deer hunters it's a pretty big deal," he said.

Comments on the two buck limit may be submitted by mail to: 2015-16 Hunting Season Comments, TWRA, Wildlife Management Division, P.O. Box 40747, Nashville, TN 37204, or by email to [email protected]. Include "Hunting Season Comments" on the subject line of emailed submissions.

Markham said hunters may also email comments directly to the commissioners who represent their region. The commissioners, their telephone numbers and emails are listed in the TWRA Hunting and Trapping Guide and also at tnwildlife.org.

Comments also can be sent to TWRA deer coordinator Chuck Yoest at [email protected] or chief of wildlife Daryl Ratajczak at [email protected].

The TFWC wildlife committee that directed the TWRA to make the proclamation includes chairman Jeff McMillin, co-chairman Trey Teague, Bill Cox, Harold Cannon and Jim Ripley.

The TFWC meeting will be at the TWRA Region II Ray Bell Building and is open to the public.
 
If the goal is to get more mature bucks in the herd statewide, creating a better balanced buck age structure and reduce yearling buck harvest to a appropriate number by county or unit, I fully support a reduction. IMO, in a sustained herd at capacity its critical to have as close to natural buck age structure to maintain balance within the herd and sustain our herd for the future.
 
Vermin93":cimcp246 said:
Article from Wed, May 6th:

Public may comment on reducing deer limit

http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/2015/05/06/public-may-comment-reducing-deer-limit/70895996/

The public has until May 18 to weigh in on a controversial proposal to change the state's three buck limit for deer to two.

The Tennessee Fish and Wildlife Commission called for changing the limit, which has been in place since 1999, at its April meeting and instructed the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency to draw up a proclamation that can be voted on at its next meeting, which is May 21-22.

If it passes, the new limit will become effective Aug. 1.

The stated goal of the TFWC wildlife committee, which made the recommendation to reduce the bag limit, is to increase the number of mature bucks statewide.

Input from the public could play a significant role in moving the proclamation along to its next step, according to Doug Markham, TWRA information officer.

"I've seen the public turn stuff before," Markham said. "If only one or two comments are submitted, maybe they don't get it, but I have seen the public turn our commissioners several times through the years."

Markham said the TWRA is prepared to hear from a large number of hunters on this issue.

"We're talking about a statewide issue, and for deer hunters it's a pretty big deal," he said.

Comments on the two buck limit may be submitted by mail to: 2015-16 Hunting Season Comments, TWRA, Wildlife Management Division, P.O. Box 40747, Nashville, TN 37204, or by email to [email protected]. Include "Hunting Season Comments" on the subject line of emailed submissions.

Markham said hunters may also email comments directly to the commissioners who represent their region. The commissioners, their telephone numbers and emails are listed in the TWRA Hunting and Trapping Guide and also at tnwildlife.org.

Comments also can be sent to TWRA deer coordinator Chuck Yoest at [email protected] or chief of wildlife Daryl Ratajczak at [email protected].

The TFWC wildlife committee that directed the TWRA to make the proclamation includes chairman Jeff McMillin, co-chairman Trey Teague, Bill Cox, Harold Cannon and Jim Ripley.

The TFWC meeting will be at the TWRA Region II Ray Bell Building and is open to the public.


This kinda reads if comment only if you want
a 3 Buck Limit, I had always like Doug in the
past... Wonder who swayed this media release,
never mind I see his email near the bottom, no
wonder it reads that way
 
I sent this.

Hi. I am opposed to the 2 buck limit. I am fine with it at 3 .

You have fewer hunters in TN than in years past and more deer than in years past.

. Having a 2 buck limit will only lead to LESS bucks killed and more reproduction. This will ultimately lead to more deer and more accidents on the street with vehicles and bodily injury and fatalities. Wanting a more mature deer herd is not worth the price of peoples lives.

As a landowner I should have the option to Cull Bucks that I deem unfit to reproduce. It should not be up to TWRA to dictate this to me.

My opinion. You asked. I answered.
 
diamond hunter":3w2o66dv said:
There is no such thing as a cull buck.
We clearly don't share the same opinion or have the same experience behind us.

I stand behind my statements!
 
Vermin93":1fgch56l said:
diamond hunter":1fgch56l said:
There is no such thing as a cull buck.

I triple-dog-dare anyone here to register with texasbowhunter.com and start a thread claiming that there is no such thing as a cull buck.

Here's the link. What brave man will accept this challenge?

http://www.texasbowhunter.com/

If you are dealing with the Texas style deer farming behind high fences, then perhaps selective harvest on "culls" may have a place. In a free ranging herd, there is zero value in trying to kill any deer considered inferior for any "genetic" purposes. Sorry, just biological facts that don't come from the Outdoor Channel University.
 
scn":2a4jf43l said:
Vermin93":2a4jf43l said:
diamond hunter":2a4jf43l said:
There is no such thing as a cull buck.

I triple-dog-dare anyone here to register with texasbowhunter.com and start a thread claiming that there is no such thing as a cull buck.

Here's the link. What brave man will accept this challenge?

http://www.texasbowhunter.com/

If you are dealing with the Texas style deer farming behind high fences, then perhaps selective harvest on "culls" may have a place. In a free ranging herd, there is zero value in trying to kill any deer considered inferior for any "genetic" purposes. Sorry, just biological facts that don't come from the Outdoor Channel University.

The point was to gin up some entertainment by posting it there, not here. I was hoping someone would go kick the hornet nest so we could watch.
 
Vermin93":3ia6f4zr said:
scn":3ia6f4zr said:
Vermin93":3ia6f4zr said:
diamond hunter said:
There is no such thing as a cull buck.

I triple-dog-dare anyone here to register with texasbowhunter.com and start a thread claiming that there is no such thing as a cull buck.

Here's the link. What brave man will accept this challenge?

http://www.texasbowhunter.com/

If you are dealing with the Texas style deer farming behind high fences, then perhaps selective harvest on "culls" may have a place. In a free ranging herd, there is zero value in trying to kill any deer considered inferior for any "genetic" purposes. Sorry, just biological facts that don't come from the Outdoor Channel University.

The point was to gin up some entertainment by posting it there, not here. I was hoping someone would go kick the hornet nest so we could watch.

Then tell them that you don't get a rush from shooting a deer out from under a buffet wheel. :D
 
[quote="PillsburyDougboy

You have fewer hunters in TN than in years past and more deer than in years past.

. Having a 2 buck limit will only lead to LESS bucks killed and more reproduction. This will ultimately lead to more deer and more accidents on the street with vehicles and bodily injury and fatalities. Wanting a more mature deer herd is not worth the price of peoples lives. Plus most hunters just don't understand more buck fawns born every year for the coyotes to eat.
And there are a couple of studies showing coyotes get a big percentage.
 
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