TWRA Biologist Against Buck Rule.

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George Buttrey, a retired TWRA wildlife biologist from Middle Tennessee said, "[The new regulation] is designed to protect button bucks. But what's happening is you're leaving little bitty, inferior bucks out there. When you're raising cattle do you kill your best bull and leave your scrub bull to breed your herd?"

I think we have a Biologist on record indicating that there are indeed CULL bucks out there. :tu: :super: :pop: :party: :moon:
 
....George Buttrey, a retired TWRA wildlife biologist from Middle Tennessee said, "[The new regulation] is designed to protect button bucks. But what's happening is you're leaving little bitty, inferior bucks out there. When you're raising cattle do you kill your best bull and leave your scrub bull to breed your herd?".....

wow, just can't believe a 'biologist' said this. I thought the myth that 'once a spike, always a spike' was debunked over a decade ago. Those 6-9 month old young bucks have the same genetic potential as the rest of the herd on average. SMH

....."It's also curtailing your doe harvest," said Buttrey. "People won't shoot them for fear it might be a tiny buck. In Unit L we need more does killed, not less."......

again, SMH.... we needed more does killed a decade ago, but the problem of too many does has now been taken care of by the coyotes....

I think the visible antler counts as a buck rule is a TOUGH rule for the average deer hunter. It hasn't affected my hunting personally, but that's only because of decades of mistakes I've learned from in years past.

BUT... recruiting more bucks into the herd, and perhaps a few less does harvested is simply a win-win for TN's deer herd.
 
megalomaniac":kpogo7fm said:
....George Buttrey, a retired TWRA wildlife biologist from Middle Tennessee said, "[The new regulation] is designed to protect button bucks. But what's happening is you're leaving little bitty, inferior bucks out there. When you're raising cattle do you kill your best bull and leave your scrub bull to breed your herd?".....

wow, just can't believe a 'biologist' said this. I thought the myth that 'once a spike, always a spike' was debunked over a decade ago. Those 6-9 month old young bucks have the same genetic potential as the rest of the herd on average. SMH

....."It's also curtailing your doe harvest," said Buttrey. "People won't shoot them for fear it might be a tiny buck. In Unit L we need more does killed, not less."......

again, SMH.... we needed more does killed a decade ago, but the problem of too many does has now been taken care of by the coyotes....

I think the visible antler counts as a buck rule is a TOUGH rule for the average deer hunter. It hasn't affected my hunting personally, but that's only because of decades of mistakes I've learned from in years past.

BUT... recruiting more bucks into the herd, and perhaps a few less does harvested is simply a win-win for TN's deer herd.
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I think if you take out the whole argument for getting larger bucks out there... the biggest downsides to this stupid rule is.
It Encourages violations due to hunters shooting a deer above the hair line then
leaving the deer in the field (wanton waste). They simply don't want to burn a precious buck tag on a button. Now with that said when there were 3 bucks??? NOT so much of a problem.

Increases risk of vehicle/deer collisions!!! I have been saying that all along on the two bucker threads. Finally someone had the balls to say it. Less Bucks being shot mean more breeding. Means more deer population means more accidents. How hard is this for people to get through their thick skull???
 
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The problem with us "hunters" is we are just not very well organized nor are we well funded.

I have said this before. "WE" could get alot done if were to get organized and get some special interest groups in our corner. Groups that are like minded with serious lobbying power and serious money.

I think for things for instance like Baiting to be legalized in TN for instance its going to take a group of dedicated people to spear head it and get the right backing.
 
docpoco":206en8na said:
I respect the opinions of everyone on this thread, regardless of which way you stand on the issue.

But that Biologist is full of ******.

And yes, I have a degree in Biology and studied, among other things, herd genetics. My senior thesis was on Declining Mule Deer populations and genetics.
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PillsburyDoughboy":1l0xqdj4 said:
George Buttrey, a retired TWRA wildlife biologist from Middle Tennessee said, "[The new regulation] is designed to protect button bucks. But what's happening is you're leaving little bitty, inferior bucks out there. When you're raising cattle do you kill your best bull and leave your scrub bull to breed your herd?"

I think we have a Biologist on record indicating that there are indeed CULL bucks out there. :tu: :super: :pop: :party: :moon:
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Yea, I'm still scratching my head on this one.


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docpoco":2wpljqbn said:
I respect the opinions of everyone on this thread, regardless of which way you stand on the issue.

But that Biologist is full of ******.

And yes, I have a degree in Biology and studied, among other things, herd genetics. My senior thesis was on Declining Mule Deer populations and genetics.
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x2 full as a goose.
 

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