Trying to formulate a plan

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PickettSFHunter

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This is my "Other" place. In Morgan County, high deer density area but also high hunter density, people actually hunt the properties around me here lol Much different than what Im used too, but it was a no brainer deal so I bought it. 55 acres, all mature oak hardwoods, absolutely wide open, I can see 200 yards in many places now. I havent been able to do anything just yet to improve it like I have on my place in Fentress. Im waiting til the timber is cut and will have to wait for timber prices to go back up, but Im trying to get a plan until then.
My number limiting factor is obviously cover, as you can see, Im surrounded by cover though. I just have to hope when I add cover, deer will come to my cover because the surrounding properties will have more pressure. The green I have marked is potential areas that can be cleared, thats all I have that is feasible to clear(flat without rocks everywhere). I really want to clear at least 3 small areas for Fall plots. But as you can see, only 2 areas are located away from property lines. There is a hunting lease on the North pine side and hunting goes on across the RR tracks.
This place is actually good as it is, I killed a buck and 2 does here this year and my brother got a doe. I saw ALOT more deer here than what Im used too seeing. However, deer basically abandoned the place during gun season because there is no cover. I had one problem with trespassers, that was a guy riding his truck right thru the place tearing the trails all to heck during this last juvenile hunt, with his girl holding the rifle out the window :D I dont even have a gate yet,just signs, didnt really want to do it until logging was done but I guess I better soon.

Ive never had to worry about being to close to property lines before and have never hunted any place that even had a house in the same area I was in, but as you can see, I have houses close here. Thankfully the neighbor by my entrance is a great guy but I dont know about the others. I thought about flipping the property for a pretty nice profit but I had alot of fun bowhunting this place, so many more deer over there, just not quite the size Im used to.

I would like to hear others suggestions as to where to locate cover and food plots and what not. Always good to get different perspectives. The 2nd pic is a zoomed out pic where I marked the most major areas that deer use to enter or leave the property. Last pic is a 3D lay of the land view with elevation exaggerated.

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I have some good ideas when Im"on the ground",but looking at pics ,Im no good,one thing I have learned for sure,and you may not be concerned with this is,the closer to cover a food plot is,the more likely you will see day time use.

Im all for adding cover,maybe in places that are hard to get too,not really huntable,or that are noy great for growing good timber.

The funnel to the north coming into your place looks great,especially where you have pointed out for a food plot,the one thAT LOOKS LIKE THE BACK OF AN AIRPLANE,I can see a stand between the plot and the funnel.

Heck I like seeing new dirt,bet I could get Richman to go for a ride if you want a couple of sets of extra eyes on it one saturday.
 
I get concerned about the plots on the line as well. If you really want to do them, maybe create a border with pine or leyland cypress or something?

Nice piece of property. So much fun planning what you want to do with it. :)
 
Jarred525 said:
Oh, and I was surpised at no mention of apple trees :) :)

Oh Ill have apples, you can bet on that! I probably wont have 100+ like I do on my other place but Ill have some lol The food plot spots I marked are just all the flat spots, not what I will necessarily use. I may just have to have only 2 plots. With fruit trees being in the old log landing.
 
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Football Hunter said:
And,unless you really know your neighbors,Id be alittle concerned about those plots right on the line.

Yeah Im going to have to take yalls advice on that. I only know one neighbor. I may end up doing one of those I marked on the line, on the left side next the older clearcut, because Im trying to work a deal with that guy to buy his wooded acreage out. But only if I buy it.
 
I would try to keep my plots in the center, I'd also make a couple small clear cuts in the center of the property. As far as cutting the timber I would try to watch the oaks for a couple or more years to see which are producers. Once I had the producers marked I would cut the rest of the timber pretty heavy. With all the pine around you when your oaks drop you'll be the one with all the food.
 
Any way you could get some sort of opening on the west side close to the 1 year old clearing? That is going to be your best cover for the longest around. Or...you could leave a strip of the mature oaks there and cut them in 5-6 years or longer if your going to hold the property. A strip of acorn dropping oaks there would allow you to have food between two areas of good cover. You could even orient it or make it "U" shaped to play multiple winds. I think it would make an awesome bow hunting spot if it was 50-75 yards wide and between an area you had logged when timber goes up, and the existing early growth cover.

Other than that I agree on the plot positions. Get the two in the middle going and hope for rising timber prices.
 
BowGuy84 said:
Any way you could get some sort of opening on the west side close to the 1 year old clearing? That is going to be your best cover for the longest around. Or...you could leave a strip of the mature oaks there and cut them in 5-6 years or longer if your going to hold the property. A strip of acorn dropping oaks there would allow you to have food between two areas of good cover. You could even orient it or make it "U" shaped to play multiple winds. I think it would make an awesome bow hunting spot if it was 50-75 yards wide and between an area you had logged when timber goes up, and the existing early growth cover.

Other than that I agree on the plot positions. Get the two in the middle going and hope for rising timber prices.

Thanks good idea. I need to walk over there some more on that West side and see. I know there arent any places that you could have an acre or more. There may be some spots where you could clear 1/4 acre, Ill have to check. Theres a few stands of White and Southern Red Oaks I plan on leaving that were magnets for deer this year. Plus I like open timber to bowhunt in, just not the entire place lol I would like to have thick areas around my borders as screens, but heck that may just make the deer bed on the borders, and I would think I would want them more towards center. This is just new to me as far as actually having an amount of deer and being able to really see them respond to what you do. Heck deer flock to grass yards here, so you know they will love plots lol
 

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