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Setterman

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My gracious what a googan fest that thing is each day. I have to say it's quite entertaining

They're savior Randall Haley or whatever his name is might be as clueless as any one on some things. Some he's alright but overall the dude spreads the most hilarious assumptions. Sorry if some of y'all worship him, but he's constantly giving advice that's way off base
 
I'd rather listen to Randall than half of the people on that group, or Tennessee deer hunters. I've lost a few brain cells reading some posts and comments. And I share the woods with some of those people [emoji51]


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catman529":2y7m42jq said:
I'd rather listen to Randall than half of the people on that group, or Tennessee deer hunters. I've lost a few brain cells reading some posts and comments. And I share the woods with some of those people [emoji51]


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Randall is a good dude he just thinks he knows more than he actually does in some aspects. In others he's spot on though. You're right, some of those folks make me scared that I share the woods with them.
 
I would rather burn myself with a lit cigar than read through the TN Turkey Hunters facebook page. I don't know how or why yall do it.
 
To me its like watching Britney Spears shave her head.... very entertaining, even harder to look away from, but you want to watch and giggle inside from a distance.

I still have a lot to learn about turkeys. But I can honestly say I havent learned one single thing from that group of idjits. No point in even trying to post reason, logic, or even science on that group.

AT and I had a laugh a few weeks ago privately about their belief that turkeys reproduce parthogenically (no need for a Male to fertilize the hens, the hens will just hatch fertile eggs without any toms).

For any of you new Turkey hunters out there, please ask questions here, and be skeptical about anything on that site. But it's a great place to post about how when you were reaping, you failed at it so bad you still had to shoot the bird at 80 yards.

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Southern Sportsman":136qgo2i said:
I would rather burn myself with a lit cigar than read through the TN Turkey Hunters facebook page. I don't know how or why yall do it.
:rotf: ......this is hialrious, but so on point. That page is a complete sh*t show, and far worse than any other state's turkey hunting FB page, that I have seen. It will almost make you want to quit turkey hunting. Average IQ can't be much higher than 30.
 
Yeah, I ended up sharing that self breeding hen comment with a few other people. It was to unbelievable to not pass along. I wonder when he is going to market a "asexual hen call"[emoji23]

Two things; if you disagree with one of the turkey Gods be prepared to be get attacked by their minions and the number of people that believe some of that crap is worrisome to say the least.

I read some of Setterman's talks with Randal and was very shocked. I felt like Randal was a respectful and humble person but that little post showed a different side of him




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ImThere":2dxt240i said:
Man I'm glad I don't have face book. never had it don't reckon I ever will
I have it but never check those type pages. This forum gives me plenty of entertainment.

Not sure why anyone would go there unless they just want to argue ;) :D !
 
I have it Liked but never get on there. I got banned for life off the Deer Hunter one last year. If the Randall guy is anything like Wes Stone then I'm sure the turkey page is a dumpster fire just like the deer page is.
 
Andy S.":2ozu85b0 said:
Southern Sportsman":2ozu85b0 said:
I would rather burn myself with a lit cigar than read through the TN Turkey Hunters facebook page. I don't know how or why yall do it.
:rotf: ......this is hialrious, but so on point. That page is a complete sh*t show, and far worse than any other state's turkey hunting FB page, that I have seen. It will almost make you want to quit turkey hunting. Average IQ can't be much higher than 30.
Sounds like TDH and TTH are about the same. I'm on a few that are monitored well and actually see some good discussions. But not with TDH that place was the biggest sh*t show I'd ever seen in my life and everyone treated the founder like he's a God. Before I was banned he put a weekly or monthly post up about "the biggest page on the net" and can clearly see that's all he cares about is numbers and not actual good conversations about hunting.
 
Those Facebook hunting pages make me want get off facebook and I follow both TDH & TTH, but like the others said, it's too entertaining to look away.

It's amazing how much wrong information is passed around. Lot's of Elmers out there.
 
AT Hiker":17tn5qot said:
Yeah, I ended up sharing that self breeding hen comment with a few other people. It was to unbelievable to not pass along. I wonder when he is going to market a "asexual hen call"[emoji23]

Two things; if you disagree with one of the turkey Gods be prepared to be get attacked by their minions and the number of people that believe some of that crap is worrisome to say the least.

I read some of Setterman's talks with Randal and was very shocked. I felt like Randal was a respectful and humble person but that little post showed a different side of him




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I don't kno Setterman's real name but I'd love to read the post if you could share the link.
 
Randall is a complete tool. I don't care about his post towards me but his knowledge is severely limited. He likes to think he's an all knowing hunter but reality is he isn't and each post he makes reveals that.

I threatened his precious credit by calling him out and he played the ive been hunting turkeys for 100 years card. Always a dead give away.

I'm now like the boogeyman waiting for him to post something idiotic to highlight his incompetence
 
I don't do devilbook so I have no idea about the comments therein but I do know Randall personally. Upon reflection he and I have never really discussed turkey hunting even though NWTF banquets are where I met him. I would be really interested in knowing what the conversations were about and how he was so off base. One more little thing I learned a LLLOOOONNNGGGG time ago: people can talk all they want, it doesn't really mean anything. What they can DO is what really tells the tale. I don't post on here or anywhere else a lot, but I don't think I need to prove anything either. My reputation or lack thereof can fully stand on its own merits. I have a lot of respect for setterman simply from his posts on here because I think his style, methods and outlook on turkey hunting matches my own and it further impresses me that hes as young as he is!
Anybody care to fill me in on Randall?
 
Setterman":ypn0wmj4 said:
Randall is a complete tool. I don't care about his post towards me but his knowledge is severely limited. He likes to think he's an all knowing hunter but reality is he isn't and each post he makes reveals that.

I threatened his precious credit by calling him out and he played the ive been hunting turkeys for 100 years card. Always a dead give away.

I'm now like the boogeyman waiting for him to post something idiotic to highlight his incompetence
if you're gonna get banned from the group you might as well do it in style. [emoji1]


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Huntaholic":3i7i0rne said:
I don't do devilbook so I have no idea about the comments therein but I do know Randall personally. Upon reflection he and I have never really discussed turkey hunting even though NWTF banquets are where I met him. I would be really interested in knowing what the conversations were about and how he was so off base. One more little thing I learned a LLLOOOONNNGGGG time ago: people can talk all they want, it doesn't really mean anything. What they can DO is what really tells the tale. I don't post on here or anywhere else a lot, but I don't think I need to prove anything either. My reputation or lack thereof can fully stand on its own merits. I have a lot of respect for setterman simply from his posts on here because I think his style, methods and outlook on turkey hunting matches my own and it further impresses me that hes as young as he is!
Anybody care to fill me in on Randall?
Thanks for the kind words and I was actually mentioning you this week to some buddies. Brother you've been doing it right and well for as long as I can recall.

Randall goes off on these bs assumptions about bird behavior, breeding, etc that are laughably wrong. He also loves the blind, decoy, reaping crap which everyone knows my feelings on. His latest was about gobblers cutting this time of year to regroup. Now I've spent a day or two around the turkey woods and I've never heard a gobbler cut, not once.

Bottom line is he's painted himself as a guru and he may be a good dude but his knowledge is not too deep.

Don't get me started on his bag of leaves bs, lol.
 
catman529":2w5id3xp said:
Setterman":2w5id3xp said:
Randall is a complete tool. I don't care about his post towards me but his knowledge is severely limited. He likes to think he's an all knowing hunter but reality is he isn't and each post he makes reveals that.

I threatened his precious credit by calling him out and he played the ive been hunting turkeys for 100 years card. Always a dead give away.

I'm now like the boogeyman waiting for him to post something idiotic to highlight his incompetence
if you're gonna get banned from the group you might as well do it in style. [emoji1]


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Haha, I feel like being banned might save me from understanding the googan breadth in this sport. Haha
 
You guys have to understand there are some old timers with a LOT of experience in one particular locale.

That extensive experience in one area makes them think that all birds in all locales act the same way.

Once you realize that all birds are different, and all birds change their personalities from day to day (and even within the same day), you become a more effective killer.

While his cookie cutter mold probably fits the generalization of the population in his area, it nowhere applies to the rest of the US at any particular time.

Heck, in south MS, birds started breeding mid March. I got this pic a couple days after Ethan killed his bird last Sat. Season is closed, but Tom's are still servicing the jennies and adult hens that are have to renest.

Oh, gobblers don't cutt. At least I've never heard one do that. And I listen to them every day if the year. Closest cadence to a cutt I've heard was the soft clucks that come after the longer whine they make when they want to fight. But it's not loud.

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megalomaniac":21kn6y1d said:
You guys have to understand there are some old timers with a LOT of experience in one particular locale.

That extensive experience in one area makes them think that all birds in all locales act the same way.

Once you realize that all birds are different, and all birds change their personalities from day to day (and even within the same day), you become a more effective killer.

While his cookie cutter mold probably fits the generalization of the population in his area, it nowhere applies to the rest of the US at any particular time.

Heck, in south MS, birds started breeding mid March. I got this pic a couple days after Ethan killed his bird last Sat. Season is closed, but Tom's are still servicing the jennies and adult hens that are have to renest.

Oh, gobblers don't cutt. At least I've never heard one do that. And I listen to them every day if the year. Closest cadence to a cutt I've heard was the soft clucks that come after the longer whine they make when they want to fight. But it's not loud.

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I agree he seems to have his certain spots he has hunted for years, and no doubt he knows those birds better than most.

Turkeys also start breeding mid March here in middle TN and I've seen em breed into early/mid May as well. I've observed with my own eyes, not just heard about it.

And I too have never heard a gobbler cutt. I've heard them yelp once or twice, mainly in the fall. I've heard them putt loudly (haven't we all) and heard the fighting purrs, but never have I ever heard one cutt like an excited hen. I may not have been hunting for 50 years, but I hunt more than a lot of people and heard enough turkey talk to say I don't think gobblers will cutt.


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Don't know the Tennessee turkey page or the Randall googan type guy at all. Also very skeptical of what he says gobblers doing the cutting to re group because he has no credit in anything else he says.

That being said, when you fall turkey hunt and manage to scatter a flock of gobblers, specifically young gobblers (1-1/2 year olds) they will do some loud clucking and/or cutting with yelps to re group. Not every time, and not even most of the time, but they will do it.


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Well I thought I was on the TTH page but apparently not. I asked to join but they haven't accepted. The goon running it must remember me from TDH because he's one of Wes Stone's biggest worshippers.
 
megalomaniac":3od7hjrr said:
You guys have to understand there are some old timers with a LOT of experience in one particular locale.

That extensive experience in one area makes them think that all birds in all locales act the same way.

Once you realize that all birds are different, and all birds change their personalities from day to day (and even within the same day), you become a more effective killer.

While his cookie cutter mold probably fits the generalization of the population in his area, it nowhere applies to the rest of the US at any particular time.
Every turkey hunter, both young and old, newby and veteran, needs to read this, and re-read it 1,000 times before they give ALL KNOWING advice about turkey hunting/killing.

One man's pet yard turkey(s) behaves NOTHING like another man's purely wild mountain turkey(s) that rarely sees a field opening, much less a human being on a day to day basis.
 

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