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Spoke to a friend of mine today who drives a logging truck and he stated that the prices have gotten pretty good on hickory and hackberry (for crosstie use) and the folks he logs for have shifted to cutting this and other pulp wood instead of your typical high value stuff because folks are sitting on their walnut, oak, etc with the bad prices. He has never seen these kind of prices on pulp. I am going to look into getting a few spots down maybe this summer if I can line someone up. I had some spots that I was going to cut pulp and lay it down for thickets but if I can get someone to come in and haul out how nice would that be!
 
That would be very nice. My neighbor hauled off 6 logs last week. 4 Red's none under 18 inch dia.on the small end all cut at 10 ft. 2 white oaks roughly same size... he got 150 dollars for all 6 of them.
 
Yeah Chad is was bad. But he had to get something for them. The mill told him they couldn't tell him a price without viewing the logs.

He drove across two counties trying to find the best price. Had to settle for that amount.

They also told him if the logs had any metal in them, he would be charged for the replacement saw blades! He only wanted to cut them down to pay for his property tax. it's sad really..
 
Jarred where does he deliver too. he dont come to fulton ky to the stella jones corp does he. thats where i work we treat cross ties for the railroad. mainly under contract with CN but do smaller companies to.
hickory is way up but wont last long.
 
1) How much is Hickory and Hackberry bringing now? around Central TN. (Wilson County)

2) Anybody in this area cutting pulp? I have found in the past that there were more pulp cutters in south and south west TN. None around Central TN.
 
rem270 said:
Jarred where does he deliver too. he dont come to fulton ky to the stella jones corp does he. thats where i work we treat cross ties for the railroad. mainly under contract with CN but do smaller companies to.
hickory is way up but wont last long.
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Rem270, I'll ask him and see. Seems like I remember him mentioning Stella before but not sure. How long do you think the prices will stay up on hickory? I wanted to wait until the summer but I may have to go ahaead and get it done ASAP to take advantage of the pricing. Also, what is the smallest size hickory that you have come through? 24 inch? I want to do some clearcuts where I have varying size of hickory. Thanks.
 
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jarred not sure how long hickory will stay up. i can find out for sure tomorrow.
we dont get logs we get ties already cut. we have 6''x8'' and 7''x9'' that are 8 1/2 ft long.
we also do switch ties which are 7''x9''s that are 9ft and longer but they are all oak have never seen any hickory switches
 
chad we get them also. there called bridge timbers. talk about some heavy crap and hard as heck to treat. white oak hardly soaks up any creosote
 
rem270 said:
jarred not sure how long hickory will stay up. i can find out for sure tomorrow.
we dont get logs we get ties already cut. we have 6''x8'' and 7''x9'' that are 8 1/2 ft long.
we also do switch ties which are 7''x9''s that are 9ft and longer but they are all oak have never seen any hickory switches
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Thanks rem, appreciate it. Going to walk the land this weekend and do some game planning. May call the logger next week and try to go ahead and get him lined up. Maybe prices will stay good!
 
A logger I've been talking to said they were having real trouble selling white and red oak. However, once the reopened their own mill, they are having no problem selling cut boards. Somewhere there is a disconnect between what mills are saying and the real cut-board market.
 
BSK said:
A logger I've been talking to said they were having real trouble selling white and red oak. However, once the reopened their own mill, they are having no problem selling cut boards. Somewhere there is a disconnect between what mills are saying and the real cut-board market.
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that has always been a problem
 
timber values have been depressed since late 05, when the current drought first started, now factor in the economy and you see what you are getting, an above average rainfall year[not just spring rain] would do wonders in helping the price of stumpage
 
Football Hunter said:
polar anbd cherry have much value?
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I had heard that right now everything was down except for pulp. At times cherry and poplar can be valuable, depending on market conditions. Cherry more than poplar.
 
havent heard anything different jarred. its just one of them things that nobody really knows. if your waiting around for it to go up some more IMO i would go ahead now and cut them though.
but then again the day after you sell it it might jump up more lol
 
A very commoun tree,I have no idea what it is,I call it a clibing tree,"for climbing stands" is everywhere around TN.Usually forks about 25 foot up.Ash maybe?Worth anything?Soft bark,stands bite well,quiet to climb.
 
rem270 said:
havent heard anything different jarred. its just one of them things that nobody really knows. if your waiting around for it to go up some more IMO i would go ahead now and cut them though.
but then again the day after you sell it it might jump up more lol
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Thanks. Actually walked around the woods this afternoon. Have a lot of hickory but afraid they are not as big as I would like. Probably on average about 3 to 3.5 ft in diameter at about chest high. Going to talk with my friend and see what size they are cutting. Have a some hackberry as well but again the same problem. Not much size to them.
 
3-3.5 FEET DIAMETER? (DBH...Diameter at Breast Height) That's HUGE as far as cutting for timber. Many of the sawmills in this area CAN'T run anything over about 42"-48" through the saw. IF they are THAT big (3.5' DBH) you better cut them before they get TOO big.
 
ShaneHallum said:
That would be very nice. My neighbor hauled off 6 logs last week. 4 Red's none under 18 inch dia.on the small end all cut at 10 ft. 2 white oaks roughly same size... he got 150 dollars for all 6 of them.
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That is sad...a few years back I had a few whiteoaks cut and 1 of them brought $800 bucks for 1 log,the first cut and that left 2 logs still in that 1 tree. Of course I had a veneer buyer though.
 
Jarred525 said:
Thanks. Actually walked around the woods this afternoon. Have a lot of hickory but afraid they are not as big as I would like. Probably on average about 3 to 3.5 ft in diameter at about chest high. Going to talk with my friend and see what size they are cutting. Have a some hackberry as well but again the same problem. Not much size to them.
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Surely you mean 3.5 feet in circumference, not diameter! I have never seen a hickory over about 2' in actual diameter in TN.

I have seen a few white oaks that were a true 5.5' in diameter. A couple that size were in my ex-FIL's front yard that had to be cut when the tops started rotting out of them. He got 2 12' long logs out of the trunk of each of them, and got $2000 per log back in the early 1990's. They were shipped to England to be cut for veneer. I don't think that I was completely accurate, but I counted 277 rings on the stump of one of them, so they were already about 90 years old when the house was built in 1812.

I have one black walnut on a corner of my property that is just over 7' in circumference at chest height (works out to almost exactly 3' diameter). I keep waiting for signs that it is dying so I can cut it and have it slabbed out - there is a lot of good heartwood in that tree just waiting for me to turn it into furniture (after a few years of being stacked and stickered, of course). My wife won't let me cut it til then, though. She grew up on the farm we live on, so that is kind of her "pet" tree. :crazy:
 
Football Hunter said:
Pie r square?
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Pie r round! Cobbler r square! :grin: The only math joke I know.

Yeah, same principle as you know with R being the Radius but
Pi R squared is the total area of the circle.....

Pi x 2 x R = the circumference (2xPixR) or (PixRx2) or (Pix2xR) whatever order....
Since Radius is half the diameter (2xR = the diameter) substitute Diameter for (2 x Radius)
Pi x Diameter = Circumference
which means
Circumference divided by Pi = Diameter
 

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