That whole "turn the other cheek" thing can be hard to abide by sometimes...
Thoughts on this?
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You're going to have to shoot him
Two friends hunt our family farm with me, one of them almost every time I go, the other only gets to go on occasion. We each have "our" sections that are our favorites, but anytime the others wish to hunt in them, we oblige. We all put in some form of hard work out there, so we share everything freely. I consider these guys brothers, and we enjoy the others successes at least as much as our own. We even do this on our public spots.
It took a little while for things to evolve as well as they have, but it all worked out, so I understand. I think I'd sit down with him and lay it all out in a straightforward manner so everyone understands one another. Hopefully y'all can sort it out
It took a little while for things to evolve as well as they have, but it all worked out, so I understand. I think I'd sit down with him and lay it all out in a straightforward manner so everyone understands one another. Hopefully y'all can sort it out
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If it's a lease, tell him you don't want him in there in no uncertain terms. If it's not a lease, then I would tread very lightly until I figured out who was better friends/closer to the landowner.
Seen it several times. You're completely in the right but he gets pissed off and runs to landowner like the whiny little baby a lot of deer hunters can be and landowner then tells YOU to not hunt the property.
Seen it several times. You're completely in the right but he gets pissed off and runs to landowner like the whiny little baby a lot of deer hunters can be and landowner then tells YOU to not hunt the property.
That whole "turn the other cheek" thing can be hard to abide by sometimes...
Not my strong suit. I've grown to have near zero patience for parasites. Been taken too many times while biting my tongue, knowing it only hurts myself.
Another option is to tell him,"Sure, hunt in there anytime you'd like!"
Then go hunt in one of the overlooked spots that y'all walk right by, and kill a giant.
That'll confuse the snot out of him!
Then go hunt in one of the overlooked spots that y'all walk right by, and kill a giant.
That'll confuse the snot out of him!
At least it's nice to know your hard work paid off. I've been stewing on this post for a little while. I think you're stuck b/t a rock and a hard place on this one - pray on it and hopefully it works out. Maybe ask him to meet for coffee and express your concerns face-to-face over breakfast. Those conversations generally go over a lot better than if you try and message each other.
jmlost
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I'd let it go for this season. After season was over I would call a meeting and formally split the areas up. (If that's what y'all want)
If they didn't like that idea we would have to lay down some laws about who is putting in work and when.
A lot of people have zero common sense when it comes to being a good lease member.
If they didn't like that idea we would have to lay down some laws about who is putting in work and when.
A lot of people have zero common sense when it comes to being a good lease member.
I have one spot that I share with some friends but I never tell them what I'm doing and never ask them to chip in on cost and if I'm lucky enough to get a deer I almost always lie about where I got it from, I've been in a situation just like yours and it ended up just like this.
I almost to the point i wont hunt land i dont own
Matthew 18:15-17 is a pretty good guide on how to handle it. Obviously in this case I wouldn't take it to the church. But if he isn't receptive after you've tried the one-on-one, and you are unwilling to live with it, then I'd get the other guy who hunts your property and all three of you have a powwow to hash out some ground rules.
I completely understand your predicament. When I first bought my property my neighbor asked if he could hunt part that was behind his house. He had previously hunted it and since his house sat at the head of my driveway, I figured I'd let him in exchange for him watching over my place when I was gone. So for many years I let him. He stayed in his little area. Problem was I began to restrict where I hunted on my property because I didn't want to mess him up. Although it was my land, I (being military as someone previously stated) began to place his use of my land (his wants) above my use of my land (my wants). I found myself not going into that area because I never knew when he was going to be hunting or even if he was going to hunt at all that season. So, I told him he would have to notify me before the season if he was going to hunt. (I really didn't want to tell him he'd have to tell me every time he was going in there. I felt that would just be petty and since we were neighbors and all, just overkill.). That lasted one year. The next year, when I had not heard from him by the bow opener (he didn't bow hunt but I did), I sent him a text and told him to pull his stand, I intended to hunt that area. He pulled his stand and the rest is history. It is very easy to try to be nice and end up restricting yourself in an effort to keep the peace or be a good neighbor. But a single act of kindness can turn into a moral dilemma down the road if not entered into with a hint of caution. Matthew 18:15 is where I'd start.
I completely understand your predicament. When I first bought my property my neighbor asked if he could hunt part that was behind his house. He had previously hunted it and since his house sat at the head of my driveway, I figured I'd let him in exchange for him watching over my place when I was gone. So for many years I let him. He stayed in his little area. Problem was I began to restrict where I hunted on my property because I didn't want to mess him up. Although it was my land, I (being military as someone previously stated) began to place his use of my land (his wants) above my use of my land (my wants). I found myself not going into that area because I never knew when he was going to be hunting or even if he was going to hunt at all that season. So, I told him he would have to notify me before the season if he was going to hunt. (I really didn't want to tell him he'd have to tell me every time he was going in there. I felt that would just be petty and since we were neighbors and all, just overkill.). That lasted one year. The next year, when I had not heard from him by the bow opener (he didn't bow hunt but I did), I sent him a text and told him to pull his stand, I intended to hunt that area. He pulled his stand and the rest is history. It is very easy to try to be nice and end up restricting yourself in an effort to keep the peace or be a good neighbor. But a single act of kindness can turn into a moral dilemma down the road if not entered into with a hint of caution. Matthew 18:15 is where I'd start.
I'm not quite in that boat, but I won't share permission. If I'm not the only one hunting, I won't hunt it. I'm not being stingy. It's just that the way I hunt doesn't work well with others.
If you have other properties to hunt I would just tell him you plan on jumping around a lot and won't make the decision til the morning of and not sure if you'll be there or not.
Hopefully it won't turn into a big deal but I understand you not wanting to hunt it until the right conditions.
Hopefully it won't turn into a big deal but I understand you not wanting to hunt it until the right conditions.
Crappieaddict
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Take him to the train station!
No you're not being ridiculous. Tell him that you worked hard to improve your stand location, and that you'll be hunting it on the days that the wind is right for your stand, and the days you're not there, the stand doesn't need to be hunted or it'll mess up your hunting. Plain and simple. Then remind him that you helped him with his stand for him to hunt from and he can live in that stand for all you care.
No you're not being ridiculous. Tell him that you worked hard to improve your stand location, and that you'll be hunting it on the days that the wind is right for your stand, and the days you're not there, the stand doesn't need to be hunted or it'll mess up your hunting. Plain and simple. Then remind him that you helped him with his stand for him to hunt from and he can live in that stand for all you care.
To the point. I like it
Sometimes people don't understand the big picture and sometimes they are so selfish they don't care.
Sounds like you have been doing the right things.
Good luck
High Forrest Hunter
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Be honest. Be polite. I'm sure he understands and will see the error in his ways.
I've been subtle but not that subtle. If he isn't getting it at this point it's because he doesn't want to. Believe I am gonna choose to let this thing go for this year at least. Couple deer ain't worth makin a mess over. Will make other arrangements next year
