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Deer has not been recovered yet, headed out to look in a bit, will post an update later.

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MUP":2p12sxxc said:
Dead deer. I wouldn't "back out" from doubt on that one.

Blood trailed great blood for 150-200 yards last night, blood became very spotty. Rain set in and washed what little blood was left away. We looked for awhile in the pouring rain and came up empty handed. I'm pretty confident he's dead.


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Unless he's ducking under something, it looks like he's going down right when he disappears from view.

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ZachMarkus":1n6uiomr said:
MUP":1n6uiomr said:
Dead deer. I wouldn't "back out" from doubt on that one.

Blood trailed great blood for 150-200 yards last night, blood became very spotty. Rain set in and washed what little blood was left away. We looked for awhile in the pouring rain and came up empty handed. I'm pretty confident he's dead.


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I'm wrong

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Buzzard Breath":iic189p8 said:
Unless he's ducking under something, it looks like he's going down right when he disappears from view.

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We thought the same thing yesterday.


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Looks like a great shot. Do you have dogs or coyotes in the area that could have pushed him? Did last blood look like he was bedded down?
 
Looks like he bled a lot but it's hard to tell. Was your fletching/veins white? I tried to view the hit in super slow mo and I cannot for the life of me actually find the arrow hit the deer. What I think is the arrow, coming in from the right of the screen, (white veins) looks like it hit the deer awfully low and also come out even lower on the off side.

Not trying to be negative, but it either got 100% heart or just missed under the heart. Color of blood coming out of off side looks like blood coming from heart. Looks dark from my view.

They are tough animals, if you look hard enough I still think you can find him because I think he is heart shot.


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It is simply amazing how these animals can go after being mortally wounded. Or, how they can go after "appearing" to be mortally wounded even!
 
you need a dog. that deer is dead as crap. Maybe a single lung but he is dead
 
Was the arrow recovered? Looks like on the still frame shot that the arrow is hanging in by the fletching. If it was a heart shot, he'd be dead. Fact that you haven't recovered him already makes me think you were low and if the arrow is still in him its not the best sign. Playing back the video, it appears the arrow is still in him bouncing around pretty good(right before the first tree he passes and then after the second tree). I hope you are able to recover him, those shots will haunt you.
 
Generally speaking, the shot looks fatal, but I have three concerns. First one is easy, how far was the deer, and more importantly, how high was the shooter (trying to estimate approximate angle of arrow flight)? Second one is him flagging as he went out the video frame, not typical of most fatal deer I shoot with an arrow. I like to see a tucked tail with his/her head tucked low on a death run until they expire, but that is not always the case. My third concern, which is always a wild card when shooting mature bucks "low" with archery tackle, is that the broad head may have slipped right under the heart, and maybe barely nicked the onside lung at the bottom, never touching the offside lung, and possibly causing a slow death at a distance much further than we can cover and find in a timely manner. Mature bucks have the UTMOST desire to live, and they never cease to amaze me with the amazing things they do after being hit in/near the vitals with an arrow/bolt.

Without anything else to go on, my guess is low hit on nearest lung, and the buck expires a long ways from area where he was shot, often unrecoverable without a dog or some luck, or extremely low hit below the vitals, and he lives to see another day as long as infection does not sit in, or he does not become weak and the coyotes catch up with him.

I hope you all recover him, or at least get a photo in the future to help bring some closure to the hunt. Best of luck and keep us posted. I absolutely love how mature he is, great buck all the way around!
 
ZachMarkus":1s07vh2k said:
pressfit":1s07vh2k said:
What kind of fencing was in the background? Looks like it would hold in a elephant!

That's my high fence[emoji12]


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You hunting your back yard again buddy?! :D
 
Totally agree with what Andy posted.

ZachMarkus":1bf0tlmt said:
Blood trailed great blood for 150-200 yards last night, blood became very spotty.
Rain set in and washed what little blood was left away.
We looked for awhile in the pouring rain and came up empty handed.
Sounds to me you "jumped" him at around 150-200 yards.
Would think if he'd been heart shot, he wouldn't run off then leaving only a "spotty" blood trail.

He will likely die (if not already) unfortunately, maybe a long way from where you lost the trail.
Shame you couldn't find him.
 
Did you see where he come in the field at.A lot of times they will make a circle.
 
TheLBLman":1g82dip1 said:
Would think if he'd been heart shot, he wouldn't run off then leaving only a "spotty" blood trail.
More importantly, he would not have likely made it 200 yards if he were pouring heart/lung blood.
 
I shot a big buck years ago that only hit one lung. The deer ran out into the field, fell down, got back up and ran out of the county. I blood trailed him for a few hundred yards and never found him.
 
Oh man that's that grandpa buck ain't it?! Would love to know the age if you recover him buddy! Good luck.
 
Like some of the other guys said , if you know somebody with a good dog. That would definitely help a lot. I personally think he's dead but, how far he went is a mystery.
 
Think that deer was heart shot . Don't know why but some heart shot deer goes along way at times . I shot a big cow horn spike one morning a friend and I tracked that buck every bit of 400-450 yards down the ridge he went down a holler back up another ridge through an old grown up field where I thought we had lost him . Went through the field found a spot of blood down on our knees and just fanning out found him . The arrow was bent around his chest (aluminum) pulled it out gutted the deer and I had shot through his heart . Can't fathom how he went so far guess we went until he just bled out . A double lung shot deer will not go that far IMO . Dand Zach hope you find him . Great video just need the meat !
 
I don't know the angle but it appears the deer was quartering to the shooter. The arrow seems to be pointing back when the deer runs off. So, I think the arrow hit low just in front of the left leg and exited under the right leg. If this is the case it may not be fatal. Hope I'm wrong for the hunter.
 
I've watched the video 25+ times, slowing it down, looking and listening for anything that might give some answers. Did you ever find the arrow? Right after the shot at what I believe "sounds like" the impact, is a "pop/loud hit" sound at the 7 to 8 second mark, do you hear it too? Turn your speakers up.

If the sound is what I think it is, I believe he pulled his left front leg back just enough at the beginning of the 7 second mark to catch a tad bit of the arrow in some bone, and either deflect it below the vitals, or maybe below his cavity altogether.

For those that want to see the video in a bigger frame, copy this text (minus the brackets and asterisks) and post into a new window/web browser:

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