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When does the rut usually start in Tennessee. I just moved here form another state. I saw a couple of scrapes but that was it when i was in the woods. Has anyone seen anything else?
 
It will vary from one end of the state to the other. Middle Tn it is likely to start sometime during the 1st couple of weeks in Nov. TnDeer is a good place to check on Rut reports from all over the state. The farther East you go the later it is likely to be.
 
Buck sign is ominously missing so far here this yr in most the areas I have been. I know its still early but I normally already have Signpost rubs and the Traditional scrapes being hit, this yr so far all are dead? I think it has something to do with the fact these areas have ZERO acorns and not much there for the deer to eat (hardwoods). Im already making adjustments and changing focus with the Acorn failure.
 
I believe you are correct Winchester. From my studies as well as others' research, sign-making (rubs and scrapes) is closely tied to acorn crops, in that the number and first date of rubs and scrapes is closely tied to the amount of acorns (in "big woods" deer populations).
 
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I hunt big woods deer and we have a ton of rubs and a few scrapes and we have an above average acorn drop going on right now
 
BSK said:
I believe you are correct Winchester. From my studies as well as others' research, sign-making (rubs and scrapes) is closely tied to acorn crops, in that the number and first date of rubs and scrapes is closely tied to the amount of acorns (in "big woods" deer populations).
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We see the same thing. Many acorns and a good buck age structure. After managing our property for 12 years and all of the clearcut going on around our property, i can vouch for that. Killing about 4 does per buck on average and our property holding all the acorns, the last 3 years have been phenomenal. We have been making thickets but leaving all the oaks have been the best thing we could have dreamed. Our top-end bucks will not go but about 140, but I'm happy with that. Good acorn years put energy in them and last year was unbelievable on the sign we saw. So far so good this year. Just hope the days I took off are cooler than normal days. A good age structure and plenty of acorns are very closely tied together when it comes to not only sign but the buck sightings all together!
 
JCDEERMAN said:
BSK said:
I believe you are correct Winchester. From my studies as well as others' research, sign-making (rubs and scrapes) is closely tied to acorn crops, in that the number and first date of rubs and scrapes is closely tied to the amount of acorns (in "big woods" deer populations).
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X2!

We see the same thing. Many acorns and a good buck age structure. After managing our property for 12 years and all of the clearcut going on around our property, i can vouch for that. Killing about 4 does per buck on average and our property holding all the acorns, the last 3 years have been phenomenal. We have been making thickets but leaving all the oaks have been the best thing we could have dreamed. Our top-end bucks will not go but about 140, but I'm happy with that. Good acorn years put energy in them and last year was unbelievable on the sign we saw. So far so good this year. Just hope the days I took off are cooler than normal days. A good age structure and plenty of acorns are very closely tied together when it comes to not only sign but the buck sightings all together!
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Like you (I think) the property I'm on is also in Hickman and we have a good acorn crop on the ground and scrapes/rubs.

I'm interested in the science behind the 4:1 doe to buck kill ratio. It will help me convince horn hunters to take some meat for better and more horns. Why kill does?
 
Winchester,

As so for acorn crops effecting the number of rubs, during my decade-long rub density study I had to calculate the trend in rub densities on two different lines; one for good acorn years and the other for bad acorn years. This produced two separate trends that continued to increase over time (as herd structure improved), but the good acorn year rub density trend stayed almost double the poor acorn year trend throughout the project. In essence, a good acorn crop locally doubled the density of rubs in the area for that year.
 

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