KENBOB10
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I personally think you make your own luck. What I mean is putting in scouting time and making sure they have browse. Staying on stand is a big part also.
Brisco Darlin said:and letting some walk.
...by the way how many did you pass up last year?
. Success is all in the mind of the beholder ! What some deems success will not be to another . Attaining personal goals would be a successful year to me but with that being said just being able to spend time in God's creation and forgetting our life's troubles could be considered a successful season. There are many who don't have the physical ability to even go hunting . Our hunting privileges are being threatened every day so while you are able and have the means go have your successful hunting season with Godspeed. !BSK said:Brisco Darlin said:and letting some walk.
Again, that depends on what "success" is: success at killing a deer? A buck? An old buck? A big buck? What is "success?"
...by the way how many did you pass up last year?
Some years I may pass 30 or more deer, but last year I only passed 10 deer (1 buck, 8 does, and 1 fawn).
Master Chief said:Making sure they have enough browse? I don't understand that.
BSK said:Very well said Snake.
But my question to Kenbob10 about successful hunting was more about a person's personal definition of success and what it takes to achieve that. For example, what it takes to have a successful season killing any deer would be very different than what it would take to have a successful deer hunting if the goal is a 140+ buck.
. Most of those so called lucky hunters have a knack for being in the right place at the right time but not really because they were per say LUCKY . They could even be hunting the same property even the same stand locations but they bring home the proof ! At lot emphasis will be put out that " dang he's lucky " but they actually do certain things that increase their odds that others overlook . BSK hit the nail on the head but I'll put it in to simpler terms , successful hunters do what it takes ! It may not be that they are Gods gift to the hunting world but these hunters don't make many mistakes . Simple things such as how you approach your stand , making little noise as possible , being alert , paying attention to animals , I could go on and on with little things that can increase your odds . These things can be done without planting food plots ,acquiring prime deer property which every one can't do and the other things that will require lots of money plus time consuming ! Doing the best you possibly can with what you have to work with would be in my mine be a successful season .BSK said:I get that Kenbob10. And I do agree with "making your own luck." I've had the opportunity to work with a bunch of hunting clubs, and invariably in every club, there will be a couple of guys who are always successful, while most of the other members aren't. The unsuccessful members will talk about how "lucky" those couple of regularly successful guys always are, but invariably it isn't just luck. They are the hunters who have learned the most and take the most care in their stand locations and hunting styles. In essence, they are the "smartest" hunters (in the vein of "hunting smarts"). Often times, they aren't the hunters who hunt the longest or the hardest. They are the hunters who hunt the smartest.
On the money!! Luck is gone with consistency!! Those who consistently do better than average have long since stopped relying on luck!! Sure some luck once in a while is great and needed, but far from the reason many are successful year in and year out! Its all about being willing to put in what it takes to get out what you want!Snake said:. Most of those so called lucky hunters have a knack for being in the right place at the right time but not really because they were per say LUCKY . They could even be hunting the same property even the same stand locations but they bring home the proof ! At lot emphasis will be put out that " dang he's lucky " but they actually do certain things that increase their odds that others overlook . BSK hit the nail on the head but I'll put it in to simpler terms , successful hunters do what it takes ! It may not be that they are Gods gift to the hunting world but these hunters don't make many mistakes . Simple things such as how you approach your stand , making little noise as possible , being alert , paying attention to animals , I could go on and on with little things that can increase your odds . These things can be done without planting food plots ,acquiring prime deer property which every one can't do and the other things that will require lots of money plus time consuming ! Doing the best you possibly can with what you have to work with would be in my mine be a successful season .BSK said:I get that Kenbob10. And I do agree with "making your own luck." I've had the opportunity to work with a bunch of hunting clubs, and invariably in every club, there will be a couple of guys who are always successful, while most of the other members aren't. The unsuccessful members will talk about how "lucky" those couple of regularly successful guys always are, but invariably it isn't just luck. They are the hunters who have learned the most and take the most care in their stand locations and hunting styles. In essence, they are the "smartest" hunters (in the vein of "hunting smarts"). Often times, they aren't the hunters who hunt the longest or the hardest. They are the hunters who hunt the smartest.
KENBOB10 said:Absolutely I think it makes me a better hunter than I was. I'm not saying I'm a better hunter than anyone else. When I know what to look for in the way of browse and cover I can't help but be better. I don't know about the manager part. Maybe they are closely related?
Master Chief said:KENBOB10 said:Absolutely I think it makes me a better hunter than I was. I'm not saying I'm a better hunter than anyone else. When I know what to look for in the way of browse and cover I can't help but be better. I don't know about the manager part. Maybe they are closely related?
Like I said, making sure deer have the most optimal conditions does not make you a good hunter. That is management. For example...public land hunting takes away your ability to ensure deer have enough browse. Are hi public land hunters worse than private land hunters who can manipulate habitat? It's quite the opposite, IMO. We manage to make hunting easier. Making it easier doesn't make anyone a better hunter.
Management and hunting are related closely, but how skilled you are at hunting does not have anything to do with how biologically inclined you are.
KENBOB10 said:Master Chief said:KENBOB10 said:Absolutely I think it makes me a better hunter than I was. I'm not saying I'm a better hunter than anyone else. When I know what to look for in the way of browse and cover I can't help but be better. I don't know about the manager part. Maybe they are closely related?
Like I said, making sure deer have the most optimal conditions does not make you a good hunter. That is management. For example...public land hunting takes away your ability to ensure deer have enough browse. Are hi public land hunters worse than private land hunters who can manipulate habitat? It's quite the opposite, IMO. We manage to make hunting easier. Making it easier doesn't make anyone a better hunter.
Management and hunting are related closely, but how skilled you are at hunting does not have anything to do with how biologically inclined you are.
What did you call me?
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