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OnceMoreIntoTheFray

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Went out this morning,had 2 does and 2 little ones come in and start feeding. As they headed away from my stand I hit my grunt call just to see what they would do when I heard a grunt out in front of me. strange so I hit it again and then heard another grunt back. I couldnt see where it was coming from cause the hill in front of me slopes downward. So to entice the grunter I hit my rattle bag. Then I hear a loud drawn out grunt. Then out of no where the neighboring farms goat dog starts barking from the hill to my left and I can see he is looking down the hill in front of me. I was fuming. The dog was on the family farm with goats in tow. This is the third time this dog has busted deer out around my stand. Yea im still mad but also im thinking wow I had a buck coming in and its only october.
 
I had a pack of 7 dogs come in on me last week. Thought it ruined my hunt but a doe did come out right at dark after they left. Pretty annoying I must say.
 
i don't advise shooting your neighbors dog, but maybe you could take a pellet pistol with you next time.
if the dog figures out that every time he goes close to your stand he gets shot, he might quit coming over to visit.
 
Last year I had a Shihtzu come strolling under my stand. I had to pee so... well you know.
 
Nhill said:
i don't advise shooting your neighbors dog, but maybe you could take a pellet pistol with you next time.
if the dog figures out that every time he goes close to your stand he gets shot, he might quit coming over to visit.

Bad idea. We had so many dogs come into the clinic that hunters had shot with pellets or bbs that had become infected and the owner ended up having to pay for it. If the dogs on its side of the fence, it's a bad deal to shoot it.

Just my opinion.
 
JandSCattleCo said:
[If the dogs on its side of the fence, it's a bad deal to shoot it.

Just my opinion.

If the dog is on his property, I have no problem with him. It is the owners that let their dogs run free and chase deer all over my property every day that really bothers me. And worse yet, often those owners don't care that their dog is running deer on someone else's property. Their response is always, "but they can't catch them, so what's the problem?" They have no idea 1) how damaging it is to deer to be run day after day, especially in the winter; and 2) how many newborn fawns "Scruffy" will kill for fun each summer.
 
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BSK said:
JandSCattleCo said:
[If the dogs on its side of the fence, it's a bad deal to shoot it.

Just my opinion.

If the dog is on his property, I have no problem with him. It is the owners that let their dogs run free and chase deer all over my property every day that really bothers me. And worse yet, often those owners don't care that their dog is running deer on someone else's property. Their response is always, "but they can't catch them, so what's the problem?" They have no idea 1) how damaging it is to deer to be run day after day, especially in the winter; and 2) how many newborn fawns "Scruffy" will kill for fun each summer.
BSK said:
JandSCattleCo said:
[If the dogs on its side of the fence, it's a bad deal to shoot it.

Just my opinion.

If the dog is on his property, I have no problem with him. It is the owners that let their dogs run free and chase deer all over my property every day that really bothers me. And worse yet, often those owners don't care that their dog is running deer on someone else's property. Their response is always, "but they can't catch them, so what's the problem?" They have no idea 1) how damaging it is to deer to be run day after day, especially in the winter; and 2) how many newborn fawns "Scruffy" will kill for fun each summer.

According to his post it was a guardian dog watching a herd of livestock on its side of the fence. It never said anything about running deer.
 
The dog was on my side of the fence. He brings those goats over on our farm just about everyday. No I wasnt going to shoot him, it isnt his fault his owner is irresponsible. Honestly the thought of hitting him with a rock crossed my mind but instead I pulled out of there.
 
Had he been chasing deer then it would be a different ending. But I have never seen him do it. Thats one thing we do not tolerate on this property. Hopefully the buck will be around there this afternoon and I will actually get a look at it.
 
OnceMoreIntoTheFray said:
The dog was on my side of the fence. He brings those goats over on our farm just about everyday. No I wasnt going to shoot him, it isnt his fault his owner is irresponsible. Honestly the thought of hitting him with a rock crossed my mind but instead I pulled out of there.

In that case I'd be calling the owner and if they didn't do anything about it my next call would be animal control.
 
You better check TN law before shooting a herding dog actively tending livestock. They are exempt from the "leash law". You will be subject to civil action from the owner.
 
William said:
You better check TN law before shooting a herding dog actively tending livestock. They are exempt from the "leash law". You will be subject to civil action from the owner.


What he said. As is a hunting dog, squirrel, coonhound or beagle. If the dog is bothering you, don't take it out on the dog, take it up with owner. Dogs don't know boundaries but the owner should.
 
TeamMainStreet said:
William said:
You better check TN law before shooting a herding dog actively tending livestock. They are exempt from the "leash law". You will be subject to civil action from the owner.


What he said. As is a hunting dog, squirrel, coonhound or beagle. If the dog is bothering you, don't take it out on the dog, take it up with owner. Dogs don't know boundaries but the owner should.

And then what do you do when the owner doesn't care? Animal Control will not go chasing a dog across a large rural property.
 
BSK said:
TeamMainStreet said:
William said:
You better check TN law before shooting a herding dog actively tending livestock. They are exempt from the "leash law". You will be subject to civil action from the owner.


What he said. As is a hunting dog, squirrel, coonhound or beagle. If the dog is bothering you, don't take it out on the dog, take it up with owner. Dogs don't know boundaries but the owner should.


I would give the owner at least one chance to correct his animal and after that it would be dont ask dont tell. If my dog is bothering you I would want at least one chance to fix the problem before you blated him. Granted some people wont even look up when you tell them there dog is loose pestering everybody and those are the dogs and owners who should be dealt with. Nothing would make me mad hardly as quick as if somebody shot my dog without any prior warning that he was being bothersome. Now if I have been warned and he still does it then shame on me. Handle it how you see fit. If any dog trys to get
mean with me in any way unprovoked no matter
And then what do you do when the owner doesn't care? Animal Control will not go chasing a dog across a large rural property.
 
I'm assuming there is no fence between the property they are suppose to be on, and your property, just judging by the fact that it is a common occurance. Would a fence solve this problem, or do they have grazing rights on your property? If they do, could you put up a fence with a gate, and shut it while you are hunting?

Certainly not the dogs fault.
 
I think it would be fair to give at least one heads up that your dog is loose and bothering me or my property. If he does it after that then dont ask dont tell. Nothing would make me hardly as mad as if somebody shooting my dog without at least saying hey your dog is bothering me first. If you tell me and I dont do anything about it thats just my stupidity as a dog owner, handle it how you see fit. If my dog or any dog get agressive being unprovoked, he automatically gets a sleeping pill.
 
All I can say every time there is a thread like this is...don't shoot the dog. The dog is being a dog. Regardless, it's just a dog being a dog...If the owner won't do anything about it then take action in court or something but shooting the dog is not the answer...it will only make things worse. Maybe put some chicken wire on that section of fence or something?
 
Coach said:
All I can say every time there is a thread like this is...don't shoot the dog. The dog is being a dog. Regardless, it's just a dog being a dog...If the owner won't do anything about it then take action in court or something but shooting the dog is not the answer...it will only make things worse. Maybe put some chicken wire on that section of fence or something?

And exactly what action could be taken in court and how would that solve the problem?
 
BSK said:
Coach said:
All I can say every time there is a thread like this is...don't shoot the dog. The dog is being a dog. Regardless, it's just a dog being a dog...If the owner won't do anything about it then take action in court or something but shooting the dog is not the answer...it will only make things worse. Maybe put some chicken wire on that section of fence or something?

And exactly what action could be taken in court and how would that solve the problem?

Well, honestly, BSK, this is above my pay grade. All I know in my heart is shooting the dog is wrong...morally and ethically. Has to be other avenues...maybe load the dog up in the truck and take him home a few times or something...My best friend Jerry totally disagrees with me on this also but killing a dog for being a dog doesn't work for me.
 
Coach said:
BSK said:
Coach said:
All I can say every time there is a thread like this is...don't shoot the dog. The dog is being a dog. Regardless, it's just a dog being a dog...If the owner won't do anything about it then take action in court or something but shooting the dog is not the answer...it will only make things worse. Maybe put some chicken wire on that section of fence or something?

And exactly what action could be taken in court and how would that solve the problem?

Well, honestly, BSK, this is above my pay grade. All I know in my heart is shooting the dog is wrong...morally and ethically. Has to be other avenues...maybe load the dog up in the truck and take him home a few times or something...My best friend Jerry totally disagrees with me on this also but killing a dog for being a dog doesn't work for me.

What if the dog has no intention of being caught? Youcan't carry a dog home that you can't catch.
 
Coach said:
Some laws in Michigan dealing with dogs....may or may not apply here...It seems to me that if a dog is trespassing the owner of the dog is considered the trespasser as well...so, in that case it appears you could in fact take the owner to court for trespassing..

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents ... f-1919.pdf

And how do you prove the dogs is trespassing?
 
And, if you shoot the dog, and it's considered trespassing by the owner, have you not just shot the owner as well? :crazy:

I still will give the dogs a chance, but they need to have a collar on imo. No collar=stray imo.
 
BSK said:
Coach said:
BSK said:
Coach said:
All I can say every time there is a thread like this is...don't shoot the dog. The dog is being a dog. Regardless, it's just a dog being a dog...If the owner won't do anything about it then take action in court or something but shooting the dog is not the answer...it will only make things worse. Maybe put some chicken wire on that section of fence or something?

And exactly what action could be taken in court and how would that solve the problem?

Well, honestly, BSK, this is above my pay grade. All I know in my heart is shooting the dog is wrong...morally and ethically. Has to be other avenues...maybe load the dog up in the truck and take him home a few times or something...My best friend Jerry totally disagrees with me on this also but killing a dog for being a dog doesn't work for me.

What if the dog has no intention of being caught? Youcan't carry a dog home that you can't catch.

What if he does want to be caught? :confused: Hypothetically, it could go either way...what's with the negative thinking? So, you are saying just shoot the dog?
 
BSK said:
Coach said:
Some laws in Michigan dealing with dogs....may or may not apply here...It seems to me that if a dog is trespassing the owner of the dog is considered the trespasser as well...so, in that case it appears you could in fact take the owner to court for trespassing..

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents ... f-1919.pdf

And how do you prove the dogs is trespassing?

Trailcam, camera, witness...dogs don't read so it's up to the owner to know where the dog is at all times. A pic of the dog on your property would seem pretty damning to me in court
 
Let's be clear...if a dog was on my property in a "threatening" way...growling or being aggressive I'd definitely take lethal action but not for just crossing a fence and ruining my hunting
 
Not going to shoot the dog. I love dogs. Like I said its not his fault. The property is fenced. Im planning to run chicken wire on the bottom to keep him and the goats from crossing. I was only venting because I had a buck grunting down the hill below me and the dog was barking at it and spooked it off. Its funny though to watch him out in a field and those goats just follow his every move.
 
Had a pit trail me to my tree last yr. When it lost my scent it was mad. It stood there growling for 30min. I love dogs but I had no idea who's dog this was and I wasnt about to climb down in the dark with it looking for me so I just put an arrow thru it. Any other time I wudv cried like a girl but that didnt bother me at all. 30min later I shot a 6pt.
 

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