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is making me watch the NBA again. The dude is clutch! I haven't really watched him before these playoffs.

Hardin can also get on a roll. Watching those two has been entertaining.
 
Love watching Steph curry most exciting basketball player to watch in the NBA. Hope he gets golden state a championship this year.

The NBA is 10× better then college basketball these days.
 
Go Cavs!

I think Golden State closes the deal tonight. I also think they will be favored over the Cavs, given Golden State's depth, Curry, and all of the Cavs injuries. Kyrie Irving is 50% at best, assuming he plays at all. But we've got the best basketball player in the world who seems to be willing his team to win. And, that TEAM is playing very well right now. It's been 51 years since a championship came to Cleveland! Those highlights are in black and white. It's Cleveland, so the Finals will likely end in some sort of heartbreak that we can't imagine right now, but I have the same feeling I had with Ohio State. It just feels like destiny.
 
Lebron first player since 1966 to play in 5 NBA finals in a row, not a king James fan at all but that's impressive. hope Steph and golden state win it all would be there first finals appearance i think since the 1974-1975 season.this is also Curry's first good shot at a title, James already has a couple and the cavs at least made it to the finals before James ran off to Miami :D Golden state has not even seen the finals in what 40 years.
 
I hope golden state scorches the cavs. it will be tough. but if both the curry and Thompson catch fire, they can beat anyone.
 
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Good game last night but Steph and golden state had the last laugh.

Lebron had a good game, but if it was not for that give me layup at the end of OT the entire Cavs team would have been shut down in OT in crunch time lol.

King James the "best player in the world" has now lost 5 finals games in a row.

His finals record is 2-3 probably be 2-4 after this series.
 
THEdonkey0515":2mjn6eh4 said:
Good game last night but Steph and golden state had the last laugh.

Lebron had a good game, but if it was not for that give me layup at the end of OT the entire Cavs team would have been shut down in OT in crunch time lol.

King James the "best player in the world" has now lost 5 finals games in a row.

His finals record is 2-3 probably be 2-4 after this series.

Don't be hating on LeBron. He truly is Jordan's equal, and I never thought I would say that. But, he can't do it by himself. Injuries to Love and Irving are going to keep the series from achieving its potential.
 
LeBron is a very very good basketball player probaby the best in the game today. Jordan's equal? Maybe in the regular season lol.

Tell me this when LeBron wins 3 more championships lol

LeBron is the Payton manning of basketball, a monster in the regular season puts up amazing stats brakes records good play off run just like payton. then gets beat down Would not surprise me if the Cavs don't get swept and LeBron ends his finals run in 4 games two years in a row.

MJ is the basketball version on Tom Brady lol just saying.

I agree regular season everyday basketball game lebron might maybe possibly could beat MJ, in a finals game for a championship MJ would destroy Lebron every time.
 
LeBron is no Jordan. If you put Jordan or Bird in this era of basketball they would destroy records. Too do what they did during a time when the game was much more physical and defense was more intense is amazing. I would love to see what LeBron could do against the Detroit "bad boy" pistons of that era. Lambeer would slap him silly lol.
 
elknturkey":3upfa933 said:
LeBron is no Jordan. If you put Jordan or Bird in this era of basketball they would destroy records. Too do what they did during a time when the game was much more physical and defense was more intense is amazing. I would love to see what LeBron could do against the Detroit "bad boy" pistons of that era. Lambeer would slap him silly lol.

Agree LeBron May be the best in today's game but best all time?? Not even close with only two championship rings, and about to be a bad finals record at 2-4 after this golden state series.

The "best player of all time" would have not got killed in 4 games in last years finals. That was the worst finals beat down in HISTORY!
 
Go Cavs! Everyone counting them out. It isn't going to be pretty and they might lose the next 3 but Stephie is going to find it hard to shoot his pretty jumpers.
 
THEdonkey0515":3164gbii said:
elknturkey":3164gbii said:
LeBron is no Jordan. If you put Jordan or Bird in this era of basketball they would destroy records. Too do what they did during a time when the game was much more physical and defense was more intense is amazing. I would love to see what LeBron could do against the Detroit "bad boy" pistons of that era. Lambeer would slap him silly lol.

Agree LeBron May be the best in today's game but best all time?? Not even close with only two championship rings, and about to be a bad finals record at 2-4 after this golden state series.

The "best player of all time" would have not got killed in 4 games in last years finals. That was the worst finals beat down in HISTORY!

So u define a player by the # of rings???? Dan Marino and Peyton comes to mind. The game is so much faster than when Jordan and Bird played. IMO Bird wouldn't be nearly as good nowadays. Back then each team had ONE maybe TWO good players on most. Now days every team is loaded with talent. So much more athletic that could defend those older players better. LeBron would killed those guys back then. I am still torn on best of all time. Jordan, LeBron or Kobe
 
OHVATN":hzdr8vxd said:
Go Cavs! Everyone counting them out. It isn't going to be pretty and they might lose the next 3 but Stephie is going to find it hard to shoot his pretty jumpers.

That was a huge win for them last night. I said if they win last night I would put $ on it they win the series. But I know GS is gonna be ready to scrap.
 
TreyB":3bj5c24u said:
THEdonkey0515":3bj5c24u said:
elknturkey":3bj5c24u said:
LeBron is no Jordan. If you put Jordan or Bird in this era of basketball they would destroy records. Too do what they did during a time when the game was much more physical and defense was more intense is amazing. I would love to see what LeBron could do against the Detroit "bad boy" pistons of that era. Lambeer would slap him silly lol.

Agree LeBron May be the best in today's game but best all time?? Not even close with only two championship rings, and about to be a bad finals record at 2-4 after this golden state series.

The "best player of all time" would have not got killed in 4 games in last years finals. That was the worst finals beat down in HISTORY!

So u define a player by the # of rings???? Dan Marino and Peyton comes to mind. The game is so much faster than when Jordan and Bird played. IMO Bird wouldn't be nearly as good nowadays. Back then each team had ONE maybe TWO good players on most. Now days every team is loaded with talent. So much more athletic that could defend those older players better. LeBron would killed those guys back then. I am still torn on best of all time. Jordan, LeBron or Kobe
We see it so opposite. To me the nba now is nothing more than a shoot around. The pace is deff not faster and everybody knows the game isn't as physical. Every sport has gotten more sissified over the years. As far as rings go I don't believe they are the deciding factor but it deff helps cement things
 
If your players played in todays game they wouldn't be able to be as physical...
 
And let's not forget "The Jordan Rules" ;) :D ! He had his own set of rules that didn't apply to everyone else.

LeBron doesn't get that, and its because he's a physical beast. The smaller guys get away with murder guarding him, and he still is usually able to finish!
 
Jordan rules worked once. What happened the next year and the year after etc. [emoji4] . Jordan was prepared. His physical talents weren't the best traits he had. His drive, competitiveness and heart was second to none. You even said he's to big against the small guards of today. Let him come in the middle with mahorn, lambeer, Ewing, mutumbo, akeem and others.

The game has changed. No question. All sports have changed. The best college basketball was in the 80 and 90s when players actually stayed 4 years and you got to see teams reach their potential. NFL was rough in the 70s. It's amazing what receivers did in that era with all the contact right off the line up to the catch.

These debates are always fun. Curry and Thompson are deff fun to watch as well as LeBron
 
Ha! That's so true. I'm starting to believe the old saw that the fix is in for the NBA Finals. The league wants the pretty and nice Golden State to win. I don't believe that, but ....... Who knows.

Don't understand why more aren't behind the Cavs, especially on this forum. Here you have a team representing a hard working, good people of Cleveland who haven't tasted a championship since Jim Brown in favor of a team from the Bay Area, CA. Commie America West! A team with an undrafted Aussie shutting down the pretty boy jump shooter. A team with 3 starters lost for the season and the (current) greatest player in the world willing his team to win. 44 points in game 1. A triple double in game 2. Steph Curry disappears in game 2 and sulks and nobody says anything. Lebron misses the game winner with a guy hanging all over him, is rightfully ticked off, and the haters talk about how he can't make the big shot and is a whiner. That's laughable. He has taken teams to 5 straight Finals.

This is an awesome Finals and will be getting even better.
 
TreyB":a6je1j43 said:
THEdonkey0515":a6je1j43 said:
elknturkey":a6je1j43 said:
LeBron is no Jordan. If you put Jordan or Bird in this era of basketball they would destroy records. Too do what they did during a time when the game was much more physical and defense was more intense is amazing. I would love to see what LeBron could do against the Detroit "bad boy" pistons of that era. Lambeer would slap him silly lol.

Agree LeBron May be the best in today's game but best all time?? Not even close with only two championship rings, and about to be a bad finals record at 2-4 after this golden state series.

The "best player of all time" would have not got killed in 4 games in last years finals. That was the worst finals beat down in HISTORY!

So u define a player by the # of rings???? Dan Marino and Peyton comes to mind. The game is so much faster than when Jordan and Bird played. IMO Bird wouldn't be nearly as good nowadays. Back then each team had ONE maybe TWO good players on most. Now days every team is loaded with talent. So much more athletic that could defend those older players better. LeBron would killed those guys back then. I am still torn on best of all time. Jordan, LeBron or Kobe

yup and what does everyone even experts call Peyton???? The best REGULAR season QB of all time lol. Not the best player of all time period. Like they call james, You know why?? Because he has 1 ring and drops the ball in the playoffs in big time games.

Tom Brady will go down as the BEST QB in this era possibly all time, you know why? Because he won 4 superbowls and was a 3 time super bowl MVP.

So yes championships you win as the leader/best player on the court or field has a big part in defining a player.

If James already had 4 championships or 5,then EVERYONE besides bull fans and LA fans would already have him as the best all time. But since he only has 2 everyone throws Kobe who has 5 and MJ who has 6 in the best all times conversation.

And most besides die hard James fans have Mj and Kobe ahead of James at the moment why? They have 3 and 4 more championships lol.

I know championships should not define a player, but a lot of time it does.
 
Wow, what a fourth quarter last night. Glad to see Curry find his stroke again, but LeBron further solidifies his lock on best ever ;) :D !

BTW, I guess Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Marino :D !
 
Curry finally hit a few last night. I don't think anyone can doubt that he can get a shot off quicker than anyone. The Cavs were there to play and did. They blew that 20 point lead quick though. James is a great player but I think he gets too much credit, and much of it comes from himself.
 
Mike Belt":2lj2hg7a said:
Curry finally hit a few last night. I don't think anyone can doubt that he can get a shot off quicker than anyone. The Cavs were there to play and did. They blew that 20 point lead quick though. James is a great player but I think he gets too much credit, and much of it comes from himself.

How does he get too much credit???
 
Cavs should be up 3-0. Think about it.

Alas, as a long suffering Cleveland fan, here's my prediction. Cavs will win game 4 and go up 3-1. Warriors will then win 3 straight. I think such heartbreak is required by the 13th law of thermodynamics or something.
 
Poor Lebron not only lost by 21 points he got his head busted. Caves short bench is finally catching up with them they was slow and tired in that game.

Series tied at 2-2, But golden state has the big advantage 2 outta the next 3 games are on there home court.
 

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