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At the end of this project and trying to salvage a part. A friend's 1951 Winchester 69a .22lr bolt action rifle. I did the stock years ago, stripped and polished all the metal on this one along with my grandfather's Marlin model 80DL. Sent off all the metal to Glenrock Bluing to be professionally hot blued. All of it came out pretty amazing.

Now to my screw-up. The bolt handle on the Win 69a was slightly loose in the cocking sleeve, a common problem. I really screwed up disassembling it. I didn't realize it was reverse threaded, and I ripped the male stud off the bolt handle. I drilled the handle out, along with the cocking sleeve and tapped both for a threaded rod made from cutting a head off a bolt.

Everything came back from hot bluing, time to reassemble the bolt/sleeve. I had to adjust threaded rod to get bolt handle to "clock" correctly, then used Loctite 680 to assemble. Apparently not enough loctite was used. This green loctite is designed as a gap filler and is made NOT to come loose. I then peened what little material was left on handle side into the V's on the sleeve side, just like the factory did it. It felt like success until I started testing and shooting it liberally. The handle rocks back and forth slightly, loose on the threaded stud.

I can try more Loctite, but thinking two strategic TIG spot welds will be stronger. The cocking sleeve is a square, handle is round. I don't want it welded on the "back" face (facing the butt of the rifle) as this surface is the recoil lug and is used to headspace the bolt to the barrel. Don't want the top face welded either as it is viewable so cosmetics matter here. Thinking the front and bottom face would be plenty to secure it. Obviously it will mess up the bluing in those areas, but hopefully I can clean it up and cold blue those spots.

I really have nothing to lose here. No harm, no foul if it gets messed up welding this. I would really appreciate someone capable of trying. I will strip bolt down again to just this part. I don't have access to a TIG unfortunately. My backup plan is purchasing a new sleeve/bolt handle assembly (not cheap), polishing it up, and sending it off to Glenrock Bluing for a fresh dip so it will match the rest of the rifle.

A few photos attached, hopefully you can see what I am talking about.
Thanks in advance.

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No ideas for welders. But wouldn't you be better off to drill it, tap it and put a set screw in it?
 
I am trying to understand where -and for what- the Loctite 680 was used. It is intended for cylindrical parts that are interference or tight slip fit which are out of spec but still within a specified range for use. Example: Bearing housing on a motor end bell.
 
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If you happen to come thru this way, I have a buddy who is a state certified welder.. I can get him to knock it out for ya. He owes me around 47 favors 😁 so it'd be low to no cost. Far as that goes I could ship it back to you if need be.
 
I'd either drill it through & tap in a roll pin from left to right or use an industrial adhesive for a more permanent repair (or both) before I'd put heat into it.
 
m1shooter said:
I can get that done for you, can you mail the parts to me?
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Yes, I can mail it to you. I may give it one more shot with either loctite or some West Systems epoxy, haven't decided yet. I don't have the rifle currently, it is back at it's owners house right now. I may grab it this weekend.

How is that S&W model 19 working out for you?
 
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Kimber45 said:
If you happen to come thru this way, I have a buddy who is a state certified welder.. I can get him to knock it out for ya. He owes me around 47 favors 😁 so it'd be low to no cost. Far as that goes I could ship it back to you if need be.
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Kimber45,
I might do that. I need to get it back from my buddy, I left it with him last weekend.
 
Cotis said:
Yes, I can mail it to you. I may give it one more shot with either loctite or some West Systems epoxy, haven't decided yet. I don't have the rifle currently, it is back at it's owners house right now. I may grab it this weekend.

How is that S&W model 19 working out for you?
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It's great! Awesome pistol!
 
I can do it for you; I'm an export wolder; see pic below.

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My welder instructor's welding is on the right; mine on the left.



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Yeah,
Even I can stick two things together with a MIG welder. I was told there are welders and there are grinders, I have tried hard to get out of the latter category, but just barely. I have never done TIG, but its precision and lack of spatter is what I need here.
 
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