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We go back to the old way of checking deer: paper tags.
While the online check in is very convenient, I'm in favor of the tags. I think it tends to keep people honest.

What say ye?
 
I do know the poachers are loving a lot of the regulations now. No tagging and hog permits that allow baiting during big game season and night shooting during big game season are among the favorites. Poaching has gotten worse than it already was here where I am as it has become harder and harder to find deer and the GW appears to have given up on enforcement. The loopholes make it difficult as you can pretty much do whatever you want now and just refer to a hog permit. I'm not sure if tagging will fix anything. I don't mind tagging in the states I hunt that require it, I actually think it's neat to have a physical tag to put on the deer. I guess I just don't mind on tagging either way.


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I like KY's telephone checkin, but it does have its flaws. Take Mr. Rose here who reportedly killed 16 antlerless deer in one day with 3 different weapons.
 

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Knothead":1p3pc64p said:
We go back to the old way of checking deer: paper tags.
While the online check in is very convenient, I'm in favor of the tags. I think it tends to keep people honest.

What say ye?

Is this hypothetical or did GW say they are going back to paper?


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Knothead":38sphqhl said:
We go back to the old way of checking deer: paper tags.
While the online check in is very convenient, I'm in favor of the tags. I think it tends to keep people honest.

What say ye?

Is this hypothetical or did GW say they are going back to paper?


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You mean back to the previous system where Maybel down at the 5 and dime cant figure out what buttons to push on the TWRA terminal? I doubted every single time that the correct information was getting entered until I was able to do it myself.

And poachers will be poachers regardless of the check in system.

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I love the mobile check in cause it's super convenient but there is something about putting a physical tag on a deer that just feels right lol. Doesn't bother me whichever way they decide to go.
 
I do miss "punching that tag" (or cutting the notch out). Growing up I saved every tag I got and kept them all together.....but today I really appreciate the convenience of mobile online check-in....and after using the mobile version for some time it's nice to be able to go back and see your history on deer and turkey.
 
Poachers will do their thing either way! I do not mind if they went back but you will be hard pressed to find an actual physical checking station in my area. As a matter of fact I don't know of any currently. I don't care either way but requiring a tag will not stop a poacher.
 
Not going back. If we did, it would be the dumbest move yet. No place to check a deer in after 5 where I live. Walmart has ran all but 1 place out of business.
 
UTGrad":6y91ydr8 said:
Knothead":6y91ydr8 said:
We go back to the old way of checking deer: paper tags.
While the online check in is very convenient, I'm in favor of the tags. I think it tends to keep people honest.

What say ye?

Is this hypothetical or did GW say they are going back to paper?


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No, it's not hypothetical.
 
I'd love to have a system with paper tags that have to be punched and attached to the animal before moving the animal and stay with the meat even after final processing. But keep the telecheck system as well to officially check the animal and receive a confirmation number to write on the tag.

I don't really know how many dishonest hunters there are out there. But just one in a local area killing 7 or 8 bucks off a property can devastate the quality of hunting for a couple miles around. Fortunately, I haven't had to experience that in over a decade.
 
I agree with megalomaniac. I also miss the social aspect of being at a local checking station and talking to other hunters and seeing their deer and hearing their stories. I know physical check stations have been greatly reduced, but if you still have one close enough to use it's a positive in my book. And I still may use telecheck but would also drop by the local check station to see what's being checked in, and talk with others about what they're seeing and swap stories. It's a traditional thing that I do miss.
 
megalomaniac":ahi64dx2 said:
I'd love to have a system with paper tags that have to be punched and attached to the animal before moving the animal and stay with the meat even after final processing. But keep the telecheck system as well to officially check the animal and receive a confirmation number to write on the tag.

I don't really know how many dishonest hunters there are out there. But just one in a local area killing 7 or 8 bucks off a property can devastate the quality of hunting for a couple miles around. Fortunately, I haven't had to experience that in over a decade.

Good idea....could be best of both ...maybe create a little more accountability.....but still have the convenience of online.
 
This, from what they say, will not be as "old fashioned" as having to go to a gas station and have Eleanor the clerk punch all the right buttons on a machine. But, there will be paper tags. They are reportedly still working out the details as to how many tags will come with the new annual license, and how you get a new one when you use one. My guess is that it will be much like in the past when you would use a tag and get a link to print off a new one. Not sure how it will work for lifetime license holders.
I guess the thinking is that many people——typically those who process their own harvests——are not checking them in online today either because they forget or they are just too lazy to do so.
 
Prob WAY more important for turkeys than deer.

I know a couple hardcore turkey killers that never check in birds. They carry a couple ziplock bags with them in the field. After the kill, they never take pics, just breast out the bird and put the breasts in the ziplock bag and keep hunting for the next kill. They dont ever post on social media bragging about their kills. They wont even say how many they have taken unless they've gotten into a little too much whiskey, and even then they remain vague. But I have a pretty good sense one of them took over 20 birds last year in MS.

Those kind of people can absolutely destroy an area. Fortunately, they usually bounce all over the place. But it's still stealing from other hunters IMO.

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megalomaniac":1rdxfh7y said:
I'd love to have a system with paper tags that have to be punched and attached to the animal before moving the animal and stay with the meat even after final processing. But keep the telecheck system as well to officially check the animal and receive a confirmation number to write on the tag.

I don't really know how many dishonest hunters there are out there. But just one in a local area killing 7 or 8 bucks off a property can devastate the quality of hunting for a couple miles around. Fortunately, I haven't had to experience that in over a decade.

I do miss the tags! Online checkin with a required paper tag attached to the carcass during transport is just a good idea. You could just print out online, but it sure would be nice to have some of those sticker tags that I watch guys in Iowa wrap around their deer...especially bucks.
 
megalomaniac":4zl13002 said:
Prob WAY more important for turkeys than deer.

I know a couple hardcore turkey killers that never check in birds. They carry a couple ziplock bags with them in the field. After the kill, they never take pics, just breast out the bird and put the breasts in the ziplock bag and keep hunting for the next kill. They dont ever post on social media bragging about their kills. They wont even say how many they have taken unless they've gotten into a little too much whiskey, and even then they remain vague. But I have a pretty good sense one of them took over 20 birds last year in MS.

Those kind of people can absolutely destroy an area. Fortunately, they usually bounce all over the place. But it's still stealing from other hunters IMO.

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I hope someone is at least providing some anonymous tips to game wardens.
 
megalomaniac":36m4t6n4 said:
Prob WAY more important for turkeys than deer.

I know a couple hardcore turkey killers that never check in birds. They carry a couple ziplock bags with them in the field. After the kill, they never take pics, just breast out the bird and put the breasts in the ziplock bag and keep hunting for the next kill. They dont ever post on social media bragging about their kills. They wont even say how many they have taken unless they've gotten into a little too much whiskey, and even then they remain vague. But I have a pretty good sense one of them took over 20 birds last year in MS.

Those kind of people can absolutely destroy an area. Fortunately, they usually bounce all over the place. But it's still stealing from other hunters IMO.

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I know several people that do this exact thing.


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For the folks that "know" all of this on the violations and don't make the call, it is an obvious choice to be part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

Just MO.
 
scn":oqxeezjx said:
For the folks that "know" all of this on the violations and don't make the call, it is an obvious choice to be part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

Just MO.
Having worked for a game and fish agency, I'm sure you have met your fair share that you suspected of over the limit killing, but they were too smart to catch.

Wardens suspect, but it's not like these guys sit in a blind over a bait pile that makes them easy to catch. Not sure if rumors and suspicion is enough to get a warrant to check a freezer at home.

But all this is really quite off topic. Paper tags aren't going to slow those folks down one bit, just keep honest people honest. They would make LE job easier to prosecute I suspect.

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Poachers are poachers, the method of check in won't make a difference to someone who doesn't care about the law, unless they get caught, which they usually don't.


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scn":22vx0y8r said:
For the folks that "know" all of this on the violations and don't make the call, it is an obvious choice to be part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

Just MO.


Totally agree with that statement ! 100%
 
I'm for tagging, but don't want to HAVE to check them in person again. I hate driving around late at night in bad weather only to find check stations are closed.

What's more to gain by being dishonest-saving the trouble of driving into town to check one in or saving the trouble of not having to log in and take five minutes?




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Also, no one can make a gas station or sporting goods store be a check station. Most are glad the dont have the hassle anymore and will not volunteer to do it. If a person has to drive 25-30 miles to do it it will lead to more
People not checking them in at all. One other thing, its not like wal mart supports hunting anymore so what makes people bellieve they will always do it.
 
Now my uncle owned a store on top of the mtn up until a few years ago, and he was glad to be a checking station. He reasoned that getting the hunters to stop in was good business, extra business even.
 
checked in 180 deer at check in stations all over tn
never had a deer checked

hell i checked in deer with it hanging in the cooler


if you want to break the law you can do it no matter what

i know people that never checked in deer .... they do now cause it is easy on their i phone and they dont have to drive all over looking for a place that is open

they will never go back to paper tags IMO
 
I don't see them going back to paper tags.. they hashed this out a few years ago and said it would cost the agency way too much money to go back. The type of check in system isn't going to stop the people who are illegally hunting and harvesting animals. Paper tags are old technology and expensive management.
 
I am in favor of the physical check in and paper tag requirement.
We didn't need to make it easier than it already was for poachers.
The new system did just that.
I feel the biggest problem is enforcement.
I have hunted on public land in East Tn. for 16 years and have NEVER seen a game warden while hunting.
Only ones I come across are in the North Cumberland WMA working on Elk habitat.
With the license revenue and income from clear cutting our WMA's why is it not a priority finance enforcement of our game laws??
 
I would be in favor of a physical tag where it only had date of kill, buck or doe, and a place to write the confirmation number. That way you can check it in online for accuracy but have to have a tag to keep a few on the fence honest.
 

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