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[caneyforksurf]

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[gil1]

No ads here, please.
No more boats on the Caney either, please.

 

[mr.big]

in before all Hell breaks loose

BTW,,you live in G-Town or the business located there??

 

[trealtree]

oh my

 

[caneyforksurf]

Rant all you want about people invading your secret little fishing spot. I have lived the majority of my 27 years on the Caney Fork River. YOU are the ones invading my space. I have no problem with sharing this beautiful resource with others. My family owns over 3 miles of river front property on the Caney. Two miles between the dam and Happy. So YOU think there are too many people on the river. WE have to pick up their garbage. I got into this business to take an active role in what ever is around the bend for Caney Fork Community. My family has always gladly accomodated boaters, campers, and fisherman, but we like respect in return. The river is not ours, but the land is. I'm here to coexist with anyone willing to respectfully use the river.

The CanoeTheCaney bullshit is another story. They advertise arrowhead hunting on the Caney Fork River. Whose land do you think they are encouraging people to stop on?

The crowd on the Caney Fork is ridiculous, but joining the chaos is the only choice I have. So if I can help you out on your trip to the Caney Fork, give me a call. If not find another river, but I've always been here and I'm here to stay.

 

[gil1]

I'm not an administrator of this site, but my understanding is that tndeer will proudly display your new business if you advertise with them. It is just a site rule so that the forums don't get mucked up with free advertising. No offense at all.

Your first 2 posts have made quite a first impression. In the first post, you just want to use tndeer to make money. In the second post, you went off on some rant for no reason. Sorry WE are the ones invading YOUR space. Good luck on your venture.

 

[strutandrut]

Wow, I have almost 20 thousand posts on here. I dont think I have used the fully typed word BS even once. This dude did it in his 2nd post. LMAO! :laugh:

 

[bowriter]

Gil- Actually, he is one of the good ones. He just needs a little seasoning. Caneyforksurf-Have you got your takeout ramp at Stonewall done yet?

BTW- I'm thinking about going treasure hunting on Betty's Island.

 

[caneyforksurf]

I was told to post here by a fisherman at Betty's Island. Sorry, If my ad is not welcome. But by reading the post on here about the Caney and by the responses I got, I was a little irritated at how a bunch of respectable adults can be so shallow in their views about something. The water is for everyone, ya'll need to realized that. I am as against big commercialization as anyone. This business is a part-time occupation to keep me more in tune with the people in and around the river. The Caney Fork River is a huge part of my life. I am just trying to extend a service and create a positive relationship with the Fishermen of the Caney Fork community. For you the Caney Fork is a getaway destination, but it is my home. You are always welcome here as far as I am concerned. But when your day of fishing gets a little crowded, so does my backyard...

 

[bowriter]

Yeah...but have you got your ramp done? How is the battle with G'ville council going?

 

[caneyforksurf]

I do tend to have a bad mouth, but as for the boat ramp...who knows...It is apparently suppose to go in across the road from me, but I haven't seen a sign of anyone doing anything... I did hear a September date, but haven't seen any action.

 

[caneyforksurf]

The ramp is suppose to go in across the road from me, I haven't seen anyone doing anything. No one seems knows anything about it either. I do know the state owns the land and I did hear a September date, but I don't know what relevance it had.

 

[strutandrut]

I do tend to have a bad mouth,

I was just roughing you up a bit about the BS thing. Welcome to the site. :)

 

[caneyforksurf]

Honestly, I have been blown away by the traffic on the Caney Fork, especially this weekend... I've been paddling that river heavily for about 8 years, and it has gradually escalated to all this... I always thought the Caney Fork had everything I needed but women, even that is looking promising lately...

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a game warden downstream from betty's?

 

[bowriter]

Downstream from Betty's???

Yeah. A lot of them. Most of them were in my boat.

 

[bigluresonly]

Saw one launching at bettys sunday morning. Don't know which way they went but i was sure happy to see them.

 

[gil1]

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen a game warden downstream from betty's?

Actually, I know that scn (TWRA enforcement) is inquiring into that very problem.

Look, caneysurf, I still think you're argument needs some fine tuning especially since you make money off the river and you are obviously not a fisherman, but you caught me right after a Saturday on the Caney where I felt like all day, I was zooming over speed bumps.

I don't claim to own anything. But I am saddened that I didn't enjoy the outing and can't return on a weekend. The canoers were too much, too disrespectful of their surroundings, and way too disrespectful of the resource (of course, not all of them - bad seeds in all the groups). It's nobody's fault and there's nothing I can think of to do, but I'm in mourning right now.

I understand that all canoes will soon have to pay to be registered. Overall I think that sux, but it will make me feel a little better if the registration money goes toward the resource just like the fishermen pay to maintain ramps, etc.

 

[mr.big]

seriously man,,where you live,I live in Kempville and work at Bon-L,,I know a bunch of people that live on both sides just wondered who ya was,,I don`t trout fish at all,but I knew you was gonna get a hard time.I can throw a rock in the river from where I park at work every day..

I do some stripe and striper fishing from Mulherrin down in the winter and early spring.

 

[caneyforksurf]

I understand both sides of the argument. I am also a whitewater paddler and read the opposing side on BoaterTalk.com a forum with lots of heated opinions from the boater perspective.

I can also the possible need for canoe/kayak registration. Motorized boats are often annoying, should they be banned?

 

[gil1]

I understand both sides of the argument. I am also a whitewater paddler and read the opposing side on BoaterTalk.com a forum with lots of heated opinions from the boater perspective.

I can also the possible need for canoe/kayak registration. Motorized boats are often annoying, should they be banned?

I really don't have a resolution or explanation. Except I will not go on the river on weekends in summer. I love canoeing, too, so that's not my point. The hordes will keep coming, and the fishermen will have to live with it or go elsewhere. I find that it is too stressful for me to cope with it, so I'll be one of the ones pushed off the river by traffic.

 

[mr.big]

The canoe hatch ruined the Hiwassee for many many folks. It just got to the point it was so miserable to try and fish that it wasn't worth the effort.

I am thankful every day of my home rivers that there is no commercial canoe operations and we can fish in peace without listening to the rhythmic Ben Hur style paddling in the back ground.

The least "outfitters" could do is try and coach their customers on proper river etiquette and to give fisherman respect.

It all goes back to an argument I had yesterday that the people who pay the salaries of the folks who manage and maintain our playgrounds get over run by the rest of the free loading public anymore.

They charge for ATV's in some of the WMA's, I say charge the outfitters and the canoeists for their use on the rivers.

does fish guides have to pay a special permit to use the resource??

 

[mr.big]

IMO ,,guides should have to pay the commercial permit..if your making money off what my liscense pays for you should have to pay extra..

 

[bowriter]

There actually is a law in place regarding guides on navigable waters in TN. I only know of one guide who is in compliance. :)

But hey, back to the topic. This Surf guy is okay. He may have come across a bit rough but he is really on our side. Now if he could get Mr. Paschal to let us take out on his land, that would be just great.

 

[Fordman]

There actually is a law in place regarding guides on navigable waters in TN. I only know of one guide who is in compliance. :)

What law are you referring to?

 

[bowriter]

Got your Coast Guard Capitans license, Troy?

Yep. It is a law.

 

[Fordman]

Nope its not. They do not require the Capts license for a fishing guide on any waterway in Tennessee. Spoke with the Coast Guard not a week ago. Kentucky requires it on the cumberland but your not required it in TENNESSEE......
However there are certain waterways that require the NEW HANDY DANDY coast guard" Limited fishing guides licence". After talking to the coast guard office if Memphis I have learned a handful of useful information.

1. They have no idea where the new guide license is required other than the Cumberland River in Kentucky.

2. They are not sure what forms, tests, and certificates one needs to get the license.

3. They do however know a captains license in no longer a requirement.

In a nutshell you are partially correct. The laws read navigable waterway and according the the US coast guard they dont "enforce" that on any known waterways in Tennessee for fishing guides......Yet.
THe upside is that a Coast Guard six pack license was exoensive and the limited guide licence is 200.00 .

 

[bowriter]

troy- As I understand it, it is if you guide on any of the TVA system. Maybe Rsimms can explain it to you. Way I understand it, if you guide on any body of water that can end up either unimpeded or through alock system, in saltwater, you need this license.

BTW- I don't have one, either. Doubt I could pass the test. I'm not real current on celestial navigation.

 

[bowriter]

Since we have now totally hijacked this thread, let me add this. As I understand it, if you guide on the Caney Fork, (Obey)which empties into the Cumberland, you would have to have this license.

Should never have brought this up. Good thing I'm not a guide.

 

[Fordman]

I know about that law... When I asked very pointed questions about where is was required I got...... please hold...... oh sir its only required in Kentucky. I know your supposed to have it by the book, and I am in the process off getting mine but.... well heyel you know they are not enforcing that anywhere but the upper cumby.

 

[bowriter]

Yes, I know that. But as I said, the law is in place. There are two lakes where it is very lightly enforced...and that is only if you screw up. But, as I said, the law is in place.