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I'd just like to put it out there that if youre going to start a sanctuary build you need a detailed plan I see too many folk just hafhazardly start building a sanctuary with no real goals or details of what they are doing, well folks, I can help!
 
For those of us who don't know who you are, how about sharing some background information. Who are you? How long have you been doing habitat consulting? Do you have references? Perhaps your own property and/or other clients' that an interested person could visit? I looked through all 10 of your other posts from the past 3 years and see nothing habitat management related.
 
From what I have understood for a lot of years is you don't build sanctuary's you leave them alone and don't trespass into them . Maybe I missed something 😉
 
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I have a small area on my property that I like to call a sanctuary. It's probably a total of 4-5 acres that is an old grown up pond that connects into 2 steep gravel pits that I have maybe walked in 3-4 times the 24 years I've hunted it. One was to track a deer and the others are during turkey season. Other than people letting stuff grow up and leaving it alone I don't guess I've heard of people building a sanctuary.
 
have you ever heard if you build it they will come? well thats the same application we deploy with our sanctuary builds, they work, they attract and hold whitetails they are recruitment tools and you may hunt them if you are extremly cautious and dicipline
 
Other than people letting stuff grow up and leaving it alone I don't guess I've heard of people building a sanctuary.
Designating and building sanctuaries is an important part of small-land management. Most long-term habitat plans include them.
 
have you ever heard if you build it they will come? well thats the same application we deploy with our sanctuary builds, they work, they attract and hold whitetails they are recruitment tools and you may hunt them if you are extremly cautious and dicipline
Interesting. Care to share what you have done and share some pics if you have any.
 
Designating and building sanctuaries is an important part of small-land management. Most long-term habitat plans include them.
BSK, I want to buy some land in the next couple of years. 50-100 acres, hopefully nearer 100. Is it possible to have a sanctuary for a parcel that size or is it just too small? If possible, approximately how big do you think that sanctuary should be? Likewise, I'm thinking for a property that size, a sanctuary should be place within the interior rather than on the border. Any such parcel that I would consider purchasing would have to be surrounded by other undeveloped land and I'm thinking hunted fairly heavily by my neighbors.
 
BSK, I want to buy some land in the next couple of years. 50-100 acres, hopefully nearer 100. Is it possible to have a sanctuary for a parcel that size or is it just too small? If possible, approximately how big do you think that sanctuary should be? Likewise, I'm thinking for a property that size, a sanctuary should be place within the interior rather than on the border. Any such parcel that I would consider purchasing would have to be surrounded by other undeveloped land and I'm thinking hunted fairly heavily by my neighbors.
Actually, the smaller the land, the more critical sanctuaries become. On small lands, it's very easy to pressure deer right of the property if they don't have places to feel safe from hunters. ANY amount of land in the interior of a smaller property where hunters do not go, and can be managed to produce high-quality cover, is going to be a bonus. But honestly, terrain and current habitat would dictate the size of the sanctuary.

Now if I could have it any way I want, I would probably have at least 20% of a smaller property in sanctuary cover.
 
Actually, the smaller the land, the more critical sanctuaries become. On small lands, it's very easy to pressure deer right of the property if they don't have places to feel safe from hunters. ANY amount of land in the interior of a smaller property where hunters do not go, and can be managed to produce high-quality cover, is going to be a bonus. But honestly, terrain and current habitat would dictate the size of the sanctuary.

Now if I could have it any way I want, I would probably have at least 20% of a smaller property in sanctuary cover.
That's how my dad has set up our 40 acres. 50% is overgrown CRP. He doesn't really leave the back yard to hunt. I rarely ever get a big buck on camera on our land during summer. The bucks don't really care about it. They're all hanging out near the neighbors beans, but come season he sees a ton of bucks
 
From what I have understood for a lot of years is you don't build sanctuary's you leave them alone and don't trespass into them . Maybe I missed something 😉
Well said Mike. My sanctuary is maybe 4 acres that is an overgrown white pine forest with open pockets of swamp and underbrush. It has a 15 acre swamp along east side, owners grass field to the south, one lone house to north w ag field, and road along west side. No one hunts it except me and i only hunt it when conditions are perfect by entering from south and walking in on east side when wind is from west. I also wont hunt until cell cam shows that shooter buck has made it his sanctuary...... this usually occurs after shooter bucks are pressured out of neighboring woods.

Located in Michigan..... i now live in TN but still return to my home state of Michigan as i have no property to hunt in middle Tennessee.....
yet...

This is my last buck taken on property..
 

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Well said Mike. My sanctuary is maybe 4 acres that is an overgrown white pine forest with open pockets of swamp and underbrush. It has a 15 acre swamp along east side, owners grass field to the south, one lone house to north w ag field, and road along west side. No one hunts it except me and i only hunt it when conditions are perfect by entering from south and walking in on east side when wind is from west. I also wont hunt until cell cam shows that shooter buck has made it his sanctuary...... this usually occurs after shooter bucks are pressured out of neighboring woods.

Located in Michigan..... i now live in TN but still return to my home state of Michigan as i have no property to hunt in middle Tennessee.....
yet...

This is my last buck taken on property..
That's a bruiser!
 
Im afraid Ive dedicated too much space for a sanctuary,40acres interior and 20 acres on one side and 35 acres on the other.Its very frustrating to just know the deer are there cause you have them on camera and never see them in person.
 
We have 13 on our place. Average size of them is about 8 acres. 4 of those just got made within the last 2 months. All but 2 of those have been logged. Those 2 are just hardwood areas no one has gone in for years. These logged areas will be on a burn rotation
 
Im afraid Ive dedicated too much space for a sanctuary,40acres interior and 20 acres on one side and 35 acres on the other.Its very frustrating to just know the deer are there cause you have them on camera and never see them in person.
And now you understand the Catch 22 of sanctuaries. The larger the sanctuary, the better it works, but the harder it is to hunt. I suggest to my clients more smaller sanctuaries on their property instead of a few large ones. I find that once a patch of sanctuary cover gets in the 20 acre range, it becomes much harder to hunt. Too many entrance and exit routes exist. But those larger sanctuaries DO work, just a little too well!
 

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