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First vid speak for itself, literally. Second video too. Third video shows what happens when a threat is answered! Audio is pretty darn clear.






 
Great videos! The audio is also amazing. I agree that eight point is a tank for the rack he is carrying. I have a question, what is the chiming sound in the second video and was the buck who did the snort wheeze responding to that sound?
 
rifle02 said:
Great videos! The audio is also amazing. I agree that eight point is a tank for the rack he is carrying. I have a question, what is the chiming sound in the second video and was the buck who did the snort wheeze responding to that sound?
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Hmm not sure. I'll have to listen again. I assumed he was snort wheezing at the big one because pretty immediately in the next frame the big one steps out of the thick to answer the call. I didn't hear the chiming. Will turn up my audio and listen again.
 
Ski said:
Hmm not sure. I'll have to listen again. I assumed he was snort wheezing at the big one because pretty immediately in the next frame the big one steps out of the thick to answer the call. I didn't hear the chiming. Will turn up my audio and listen again.
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Sounds like way off in the distance a horn blowing from a car alarm? But agree it looks like he snort wheezed at the other buck....cool videos.
 
Great video and audio, thanks for sharing. Were these pulled from SD card or over the cellular network?
 
DoubleRidge said:
Sounds like way off in the distance a horn blowing from a car alarm? But agree it looks like he snort wheezed at the other buck....cool videos.
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There's a trailer park quarter mile away so that's probably it. Got a buck rubbing that tree while sirens are going by. Sounds like a seek one video but it's actually a farm well outside of town lol
 
Andy S. said:
Great video and audio, thanks for sharing. Were these pulled from SD card or over the cellular network?
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Cards, not cell. It's a camera LBLMan suggested so I tried it and am quite happy with it. Trail cam pro has them for about $90. Heck of a cam for the money. True black flash too. Even the old nanny does don't see it.
 
That's just awesome! Love hearing the sounds but I don't think that first buck has ever heard what my grunt call sounds like. He'd never win a calling contest.

I need to get a few of these cameras. That sound quality is excellent.
 
Ski said:
No idea how old the 8pt is but his body is way too big for his rack.
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I've got one like that on my place Ski. Tank of a body, but a rack way below what it should be. Just goes to show how the "bell curve distribution" works. Some are at the top end, some at the bottom. This guy is at the bottom for his age.
 

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BSK said:
I've got one like that on my place Ski. Tank of a body, but a rack way below what it should be. Just goes to show how the "bell curve distribution" works. Some are at the top end, some at the bottom. This guy is at the bottom for his age.
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Crazy how it works. Then you see a 2yr old sporting 120".
 
Ski said:
Crazy how it works. Then you see a 2yr old sporting 120".
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I try to explain to hunters/landowners/clubs why they can't use antler size to set harvest goals or judge age, but I honestly think they don't believe me. Given enough acreage (generally over 1,000 acres) I will find a yearling buck that outscores the lowest scoring mature buck on the property.

The point being, the bell curve for each age-class is so wide, that every age's curve overlaps every other age's curve.
 
Sorry for going off topic, but what kills me are these clubs that have the most insane harvest criteria based on antler measurements, and their reason for doing so is because they think judging these is easier than field-judging age. WHAT? You really think hunters in a hunting situation having to judge whether a buck has 19" beams, or 5" basal circumference, or a 16" outside spread is easier than looking for the simple characteristics of a 3 1/2 or 4 1/2 year-old? Heck, in a hunting situation I wouldn't even trust myself to make those antler measurement judgements, but I can think of at least 100 users of TNdeer I would trust to make field-judge age estimates.
 
BSK said:
I try to explain to hunters/landowners/clubs why they can't use antler size to set harvest goals or judge age, but I honestly think they don't believe me. Given enough acreage (generally over 1,000 acres) I will find a yearling buck that outscores the lowest scoring mature buck on the property.

The point being, the bell curve for each age-class is so wide, that every age's curve overlaps every other age's curve.
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True. It's really pretty astounding the difference you can see from one buck to the next that live on the same dirt in the same conditions.
 
BSK said:
Sorry for going off topic, but what kills me are these clubs that have the most insane harvest criteria based on antler measurements, and their reason for doing so is because they think judging these is easier than field-judging age. WHAT? You really think hunters in a hunting situation having to judge whether a buck has 19" beams, or 5" basal circumference, or a 16" outside spread is easier than looking for the simple characteristics of a 3 1/2 or 4 1/2 year-old? Heck, in a hunting situation I wouldn't even trust myself to make those antler measurement judgements, but I can think of at least 100 users of TNdeer I would trust to make field-judge age estimates.
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I agree. I wouldn't be able to live score a deer within the split second I usually have to decide whether to shoot or not. Fortunately most bucks I kill these days are deer I'm specifically hunting because I'm familiar with them via trail cams and/or scouting. I always get a few stranger passer through bucks each season but almost never see them from stand.

The club standards and even some of the state agency standards on certain hunts, as they relate to antler characteristics seem shallow minded to me. It allows bucks like the bruiser in my video to go unscathed his entire life even into geriatric years while young 2.5yr olds with true trophy promise are eliminated from the herd. And like you say, field judging age is way easier to learn. Seems counterintuitive.
 
FredRog72 said:
That's just awesome! Love hearing the sounds but I don't think that first buck has ever heard what my grunt call sounds like. He'd never win a calling contest.
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Hahaha I know. Sounds absolutely nothing like the "how to" calling videos or the way TV hunters sound with their grunt tubes. BUT he sounds exactly like the vast majority of bucks I hear grunting while I'm hunting. Most of the time they sound like pigs snorting. It's just like turkey call competitions. They sound nothing like real wild turkeys. That's why I posted the vids. It's real.
 
Ski said:
Hahaha I know. Sounds absolutely nothing like the "how to" calling videos or the way TV hunters sound with their grunt tubes. BUT he sounds exactly like the vast majority of bucks I hear grunting while I'm hunting. Most of the time they sound like pigs snorting. It's just like turkey call competitions. They sound nothing like real wild turkeys. That's why I posted the vids. It's real.
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This is how I describe it to those who haven't heard it. Sounds just like pigs rooting for food.
 

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