Got a Ruger American Gen 2 in .243 for the kids. Winchesters 65 GR shot right at 1" Hornady Whitetail 100 Gr was about 1.25". I adjusted the trigger as low as it would go wish it would have went a little lower. The stock on these is better than the 1st gen but still $600 gun stock. I put an area 419 Arca plate on it so we could use a tripod. Each boy shot a doe last day of season.